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The case for trust in scripture

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Despite multiple accounts of the other three censi, not a single historian bothered to mention this.
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What did he say about the argument from silence historical fallacy?

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ThousdandYoung,


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It is just a plain lie

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I understand from this that you are accusing Mr. Miller of lying.

Do I have your permission to write Glenn Miller and give him a sample of your message where you say it is a lie ?

Send me your email address if this is the case.
You can reach me at jjwilmore@netscape.net

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Originally posted by jaywill
ThousdandYoung,


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It is just a plain lie

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I understand from this that you are accusing Mr. Miller of lying.

Do I have your permission to write Glenn Miller and give him a sample of your message where you say it is a lie ?

Send me your email address if this is the case.
You can reach me at jjwilmore@netscape.net[/b]
Maybe you should LEARN TO READ NAMES. Don't lie about what I wrote.

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Originally posted by jaywill
Could you quote me one of these "namby pamby" sections? I would like to see what else he says in the same letter.
If you want, Romans 12. I don't consider myself to have been making that large a point when I said that Paul made christianity seem attractive, but oddly it's the point that's been jumped on. I can't quite see why? It's only logical that Paul should want to make christianity seem attractive.

Originally posted by jaywill
Why should I on your say so, accept that Paul didn't write 2 Thessalonians?
Because I've read enough scholarship on the matter? The majority of scholars now consider 2 Thess to be by somebody other than Paul. It isn't as open as Paul's other letters, it displays possible knowledge of the synoptic gospels and most importantly, it seems too eager to prove its authenticity.

Originally posted by jaywill
What did he say about the argument from silence historical fallacy?
Almost nothing. He says its a fallacy and moves on. What's odder is that he recognizes that it isn't always a fallacy. In some situations, particularly where alternative possibilities are unlikely, it is a valid form of abductive reasoning.
Example 1:
A man was born thousands of years ago called "beelzebul"
We have no records of this.
That does not mean that it didn't happen! The alternative possibility is that people didn't consider it important, which is highly likely. We cannot make a judgement one way or another and in fact, given the number of people that have ever existed, it's likely to be true.

Example 2:
You and a friend get captured and held at gunpoint and told to hand a diamond you're accused of stealing over. Neither of you do anything.
Here, the argument from silence is fair reasoning, as the alternative possibility (your friend does have the diamond but doesn't want to hand it over despite having a gun pointing in his face) is less likely than the main possibility (your friend doesn't have the diamond)

In the case of the census, the argument from silence is completely valid, because the idea that there would be a census of an area the Romans didn't even control and everyone was ordered back to the city of their distant ancestors, yet not a single historian mentioned it at the time, is less likely than it not happening.

Originally posted by jaywill
I understand from this that you are accusing Mr. Miller of lying.

Do I have your permission to write Glenn Miller and give him a sample of your message where you say it is a lie ?

Send me your email address if this is the case.
You can reach me at jjwilmore@netscape.net

Maybe not him directly but I cannot believe such a falsehood could have arisen without some dishonesty down the line. I'll give the chap that wrote that article the benefit of the doubt and say he's just swallowed up someone else's lie in an eager attempt to defend an indefensible position.

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