@fmf saidI guess the same could be said of Mohammad’s marriage to Aisha.
The word paedophilia was not created until the beginning of the C20th as social values changed. At the end of the C19th, the age of consent in most U.S. states was remarkably low - 7, 10, or 12 . To characterize the Mormon marriages you listed involving girls in their mid teens in the mid-C19th as examples of pedophilia is abjectly anachronistic and ahistorical.
@moonbus saidOf course. The Aisha thing is a trope brandished in the Culture Wars by people who ignore the fact that the age of consent in the state of Delaware, in the US, for example, was 7 almost into the C20th, and that betrothals at the age of 9 were commonplace across Europe 1,500 years ago.
I guess the same could be said of Mohammad’s marriage to Aisha.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWhat's this kind of thing all about? You've been riffing on this all year.
I think you hold a monopoly on lying sir.
@divegeester
My dad was involved with the Mormons for a while, and as a kid (5 y/o) we had regular "Elders" visit us, really nice guys who tried to convince me that tinned spaghetti was made from worms. Later on in my late twenties I worked for a guy in Croydon that was an appointed man in the local congregation, and had quite lengthy discussions. So unless thing have changed
1) Yes they do beleive in Father Son and Holy Ghost but not as a defined trinity as per the Athanasian Creed (which can't be found in a bible anyway).
2) They are/were very respectful around the subject of Idolatory, so you won't find crosses and such in their churches (Tabernacles) that are bowed to or placed in areas of venoration as you do in many of the denomination.
3) They tithe, so 10% of their earnings went to the church, but as I understood it the resources accumulated went back to support congregations in need.
4) They were known for a polygamy, but as I understood it the church has a fracture line, and the more modern approach was towards ending that in favour of monogamy.
5) They don't drink coffee or alcohol, but oddly enough cocoa -cola was ok; they clearly hadn't read the label and worked out what was in it.
6) They are known as a evengelical group, so preach and teach door to door in the same fashion as the early Christians.
The most famous mormon family that I can think of was probably "The Osmonds".
@medullah saidI haven’t read anything about Mormons believing tinned spaghetti is made of worms but I have read that they have a sacred planet called Kolob which is allegedly near to where god lives.
@divegeester
My dad was involved with the Mormons for a while, and as a kid (5 y/o) we had regular "Elders" visit us, really nice guys who tried to convince me that tinned spaghetti was made from worms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
@fmf saidCongratulations. Looks like we know who are in the "clique" abusing alerts.
You are not using the word "irony" properly.
Your trolling on page 1 has been removed, I note.
Do you think this invalidates the irony of your statement?
No, it does not.
@suzianne saidIf you feel the alert function is being “abused”, then you really should send feedback to Russ.
Looks like we know who are in the "clique" abusing alerts.
I’m sure he would enjoy reading your theories about the website. Hey … maybe offer him some money to remove FMF and myself! ๐
@fmf saidWell, now you've piqued my interest. Did a bit of poking around on the Internet, and lo! and behold, there is actually some scholarly research into the history of child brides in America. For example:
Of course. The Aisha thing is a trope brandished in the Culture Wars by people who ignore the fact that the age of consent in the state of Delaware, in the US, for example, was 7 almost into the C20th, and that betrothals at the age of 9 were commonplace across Europe 1,500 years ago.
https://www.cpr.org/show-segment/child-marriage-common-in-the-past-persists-today/
In many rural areas, until the end of the 19th c., people did not always know the age of everyone in the vicinity, as exact records were not kept and no birth certificates were issued to women who gave birth in log cabins in the Ozarks... As the above author mentions, people in those times did not have a chronological concept of a person's age anyway, but a functional concept.
@divegeester saidYou've got me on that one, sounds like an anagram of Bolok ๐
I haven’t read anything about Mormons believing tinned spaghetti is made of worms but I have read that they have a sacred planet called Kolob which is allegedly near to where god lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
@medullah saidIt’s an interesting and key part of the Mormon religious construct, and a topic I discussed one to one with a Mormon colleague on a few occasions many years ago.
You've got me on that one, sounds like an anagram of Bolok ๐
I don’t remember her ever trying to convince me that tinned spaghetti was made of worms.