Spirituality
30 Apr 18
01 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfAnd how could your fate be like that of Enoch and Elijah, who both went to heaven? Even you don’t think you’re going to heaven. Why would you think your fate would be like theirs?
Oh well then, if all you had to say to me was about how if the supposed "Rapture" comes prior to my death, you think my "fate will be like Elijah and Enoch", then OK, thanks for telling me you think that. This is certainly the right thread for you to post it on.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @rajk999You totally miss what Jesus said about Himself. It’s sad. I’ll have to keep praying for you. God answers prayers, though not in our timing or in ways we expect.
That is what Jesus said, but I know you church Christians dont believe in what Jesus said.. its all about what the pastor said.. so good luck with that. In many cases the pastor will himself be cast out so be careful. Oh and goats dont educate sheep so stop wasting your time
Originally posted by @rajk999If you think you’re a sheep of Christ, then you must think you’re following His commandments. How does your hatred for Christians, bearing false witness and condemning people to hell fit in with following Christ’s commandments?
That is what Jesus said, but I know you church Christians dont believe in what Jesus said.. its all about what the pastor said.. so good luck with that. In many cases the pastor will himself be cast out so be careful. Oh and goats dont educate sheep so stop wasting your time
01 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I am not interested in "Enoch and Elijah".
And how could your fate be like that of Enoch and Elijah, who both went to heaven? Even you don’t think you’re going to heaven. Why would you think your fate would be like theirs?
01 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009It means nothing to me that you believe this stuff. To me, it's just you waving your plastic crucifix in the air and as the night wears on you will be - probably sooner rather than later - dunking it into a tank of your own piss, a la Andreas Serrano.
You totally misunderstood what I said. You said everyone here will experience death. I pointed out that was not the case if the Rapture comes in our lifetimes. Instead, believers will be taken to heaven without tasting death, just like Enoch and Elijah.
My comment had nothing to do with you, beyond countering your claim that everyone here will die. That very well may not be true.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I was responding to what you said to me. You happen to believe that if I was a Bible-believing Christian and the Rapture came prior to my death, you think my fate would be like Elijah and Enoch and that I would go "to heaven without tasting death". So what?
Then why did you include them in your post?
You asserting this is not "countering" the fact that we all die ~ unless you're wittering away to people who already believe the same thing as you do, in which case they may well think you are "countering" something.
It doesn't "counter" the fact that we all die if you're talking to an atheist.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfIt’s obvious you’re angry at your ignorance concerning Enoch and Elijah being exposed, not to mention your apparent ignorance of the Rapture as well.
It means nothing to me that you believe this stuff. To me, it's just you waving your plastic crucifix in the air and as the night wears on you will be - probably sooner rather than later - dunking it into a tank of your own piss, a la Andreas Serrano.
You were a Christian for 30 years? Did you read the Bible during the time when you were a Christian? You don’t remember the only two people in the Bible - heck, the only two people in all of humanity - who did not die?
01 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009You were a Christian for 30 years?
It’s obvious you’re angry at your ignorance concerning Enoch and Elijah being exposed, not to mention your apparent ignorance of the Rapture as well.
You were a Christian for 30 years? Did you read the Bible during the time when you were a Christian? You don’t remember the only two people in the Bible - heck, the only two people in all of humanity - who did not die?
Not, a bit less than that.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfLike I said, my initial post had nothing to do with you. It was simply countering your claim that everyone here will die. If the Rapture comes during the lifetimes of people here, not everyone will die. Believers will be taken to heaven without dying. Atheists will remain on earth and eventually die.
I was responding to what you said to me. You happen to believe that if I was a Bible-believing Christian and the Rapture came prior to my death, you think my fate would be like Elijah and Enoch and that I would go "to heaven without tasting death". So what?
You asserting this is not "countering" the fact that we all die ~ unless you're wittering away to peo ...[text shortened]... g" something.
It doesn't "counter" the fact that we all die if you're talking to an atheist.
Why inject yourself inappropriately into my comment? My comment had nothing to do with if you were this or if you were that. It had nothing to do with you.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @fmf<<It doesn't "counter" the fact that we all die if you're talking to an atheist.[/b]>>
I was responding to what you said to me. You happen to believe that if I was a Bible-believing Christian and the Rapture came prior to my death, you think my fate would be like Elijah and Enoch and that I would go "to heaven without tasting death". So what?
You asserting this is not "countering" the fact that we all die ~ unless you're wittering away to peo ...[text shortened]... g" something.
It doesn't "counter" the fact that we all die if you're talking to an atheist.
No one gets to create their own reality.
Originally posted by @romans1009I think that superstitious people certainly do create their own reality and they can be absolutely sure and sincere about that reality as they perceive it. This conjecture-imagination-conviction thing lies at the very heart of making claims about supernatural things.
No one gets to create their own reality.
Originally posted by @romans1009It was addressed to me and it was your attempt to engage what I had said. So it did have something to do with me. You should perhaps use the Reply & Quote button more judiciously if you weren't addressing me and my post.
Why inject yourself inappropriately into my comment? My comment had nothing to do with if you were this or if you were that. It had nothing to do with you.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfI was addressing your claim that everyone here will die. I wasn’t addressing you personally or comparing you to anyone or engaging in hypothetical scenarios involving you.
It was addressed to me and it was your attempt to engage what I had said. So it did have something to do with me. You should perhaps use the Reply & Quote button more judiciously if you weren't addressing me and my post.
You must think you’re all that and a bag of chips.
01 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfYour claim that everyone dies if one is talking to an atheist is nonsense. It presupposes that the atheist’s position is correct. Just because an atheist thinks everyone dies doesn’t make it true in reality.
I think that superstitious people certainly do create their own reality and they can be absolutely sure and sincere about that reality as they perceive it. This conjecture-imagination-conviction thing lies at the very heart of making claims about supernatural things.