25 Dec 18
@divegeester saidI just read through this thread. Four people have contributed. Only one didn't provide any scriptural references to back his claims.
I’ve fully explained my position on this topic twice in this thread; please go back and read it again.
You quoted one verse, but without a reference. I tried to find it in Psalms, where you alleged you found it, but it's not there, at least not in my Bible.
So far you have really said nothing except to say you've explained your position, which is unsubstantiated by scripture in even the most remote way.
Kelly and sonship have plastered this thread with verses and passages of scripture and discussed what those references are saying.
But not you. Essentially you have been out on the periphery making a nuisance of yourself shouting out your invectives trying to get in the game and hungry for relevance, but you're out of your league.
25 Dec 18
@secondson saidI’m aware that you have never liked me Joseph; I thought by now you would have realised that your attacks on my Christianity are like water of a ducks back.
You can have any friend you want. What's it to me?
The point is he's your mentor and teacher, it's where you draw your inspiration, talking points and forum posting behavior.
You certainly haven't demonstrated that the Word of God is where you learn your theology or from which you get your doctrine.
Maybe you just don't have the aptitude for it. IDK 🤷🏻♂️
25 Dec 18
@secondson saidSonship plasters every thread with verses like a sort of biblical posting diarrhoea; it’s not impressive in the slightest.
I just read through this thread. Four people have contributed. Only one didn't provide any scriptural references to back his claims.
You quoted one verse, but without a reference. I tried to find it in Psalms, where you alleged you found it, but it's not there, at least not in my Bible.
So far you have really said nothing except to say you've explained your position, ...[text shortened]... t your invectives trying to get in the game and hungry for relevance, but you're out of your league.
But it is amusing that you cannot find the verse in psalms which I was referring to. So much for knowing your bible mr spiritual muscle man.
25 Dec 18
@divegeester saidDeflection and crying and whimpering.
I’m aware that you have never liked me Joseph; I thought by now you would have realised that your attacks on my Christianity are like water of a ducks back.
Your Christianity? Are you one of those territorial type Christians?
Give it up divegeester and learn. "Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom." Proverbs 13:10
@secondson said“Give up” what?
Deflection and crying and whimpering.
Your Christianity? Are you one of those territorial type Christians?
Give it up divegeester and learn. "Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom." Proverbs 13:10
This is not church Joseph; your tough guy approach just makes you look like a pompous blowhard.
Lol; there you go, using the bible as your little spite weapon again. Remember the grampy bobby incident Joseph? Same as this, you ended up leaving the forum after that.
25 Dec 18
@divegeester saidIt is poor prose not to provide a reference for a quote.
Sonship plasters every thread with verses like a sort of biblical posting diarrhoea; it’s not impressive in the slightest.
But it is amusing that you cannot find the verse in psalms which I was referring to. So much for knowing your bible mr spiritual muscle man.
I'm sure it was just something you heard once out of the mouth of some tv evangelist you admire, and are unable to find the verse in the Bible. You merely spit it out onto the page in hopes of scoring a point.
Is it true that in England it is illegal to broadcast the gospel over the airwaves? You must be starving for spiritual food, even if it's only milk you can digest.
25 Dec 18
@secondson saidDo you live in a box?
It is poor prose not to provide a reference for a quote.
I'm sure it was just something you heard once out of the mouth of some tv evangelist you admire, and are unable to find the verse in the Bible. You merely spit it out onto the page in hopes of scoring a point.
Is it true that in England it is illegal to broadcast the gospel over the airwaves? You must be starving for spiritual food, even if it's only milk you can digest.
25 Dec 18
@divegeester saidPsalm 2:7
Psalm 2:7
Look it up useless.
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Do you actually think that verse is a proof text for your assertion that the Godhead isn't made up of three distinct personalities called "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost"?
Just look at it. Never mind the context from which it is pulled, which would shed light on its correct interpretation.
Let's parse it out for a moment. It says, "the LORD(Jehovah)hath said unto me," grammatically, the "me" is identified by the following line which says, "thou art my Son"(capital S);
Following that?
Then it says, "this day have I begotten thee".
So God the Father is speaking to His Son and saying "today have I begotten thee".
I suppose you think that "begotten" means the Son was just born that day. If so, then how can the Father be talking to His Son who wasn't born yet?
Flash forward to the New Testament.
The Word "begotten" occurs 9 times in 9 verses. 5 times it is used of the Son of God the Lord Jesus Christ. In each case it says "only begotten".
It is translated from the Greek word monogenēs, which means single of its kind, only.
Your idea of the interpretation of the verse you referenced as a proof text to support the idea that there aren't three distinct persons in the Godhead is spurious in the application you're using it for.
Try to respond to the points I've made without deflecting and going off topic. The discussion is now in your hands.
25 Dec 18
@secondson saidGlad you finally found the verse Joseph, the bible can be tough to navigate at times even with Google to help you out.
Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Do you actually think that verse is a proof text for your assertion that the Godhead isn't made up of three distinct personalities called "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost"?
Just look at it. Never mind the context from which it is pulled, which would ...[text shortened]... to the points I've made without deflecting and going off topic. The discussion is now in your hands.
And look, if you’re still struggling with those metaphors in Matthew please don’t hesitate to reach out for help.
25 Dec 18
@secondson saidYes I really think that...what an odd think to ask.
Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Do you actually think that verse is a proof text for your assertion that the Godhead isn't made up of three distinct personalities called "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost"?
Just look at it. Never mind the context from which it is pulled, which would ...[text shortened]... to the points I've made without deflecting and going off topic. The discussion is now in your hands.
Anyway I refer you back to my initial rebuttal where I laid out several points and not just the verse you were unable to find. Please go back and look at the entirety of my rebuttal and see if you can understand the logic in it.
Let me know if you need any more help.
@secondson saidI guess you didn’t read the rest of my rebuttal after all...
@divegeester
I'm glad this is over with.
Joseph.