The existence of God

Originally posted by twhitehead
Yes. I rather suspect that he too does not necessarily interpret that statement the way you do. If you had read the whole lecture you would have seen this:

Since events before the Big Bang have no observational consequences, one may as well cut them out of the theory, and say that time began at the Big Bang.

So he does not entirely rule ...[text shortened]... itely. [/quote]
He also calls some of his further speculation 'proposals' rather than 'theory'.

Is the sky really blue?
Is love a universal truth?
Why did the chicken cross the road?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you believe that time existed before the big bang?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Do you believe that you read any of my posts thus far? Do you believe that asking a question already answered multiple times doesn't make you look like a fool? Do you have faith that you don't look like a fool when asking such questions?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Well from what you have said thus far it's actually quite clear that you don't have a clue what you believe and you get upset when people ask you.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you believe that time existed before the big bang?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Either you are outright lying, or your reading comprehension is abysmal.
I suspect the former.
Explain why you think I don't know what I believe. What did I say that gave you that false impression? Lets see if you can back up that claim with evidence, or you just made it up.

Originally posted by DeepThought
In an eternal inflation model yes. In the standard picture with the universe just sort of popping into existence then no, as time is a property of the universe. There isn't a "before" in the usual sense.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Stephen Hawking (actual cosmologist) :” "All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning…”

Twhitehead (self proclaimed cosmologist): “There is no evidence…”

"it's actually quite clear that you don't have a clue what you believe "

Originally posted by twhitehead
That I disagree with Stephen Hawking, does not demonstrate that I do not know what I believe.
Can you provide any evidence whatsoever for your recent claim:

"it's actually quite clear that you don't have a clue what you believe "

Did you lie, or is your reading comprehension abysmal?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You said, "There is no evidence either way, and anyone who claims that they 'believe the evidence points to' is not deserving of the title 'cosmologist'."

So do you believe Stephen Hawking deserves the title 'cosmologist'?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Before I answer your endless questions, answer mine.
Do you have any evidence to support your claim or not?
Did you lie, or is your reading comprehension abysmal?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Stephen Hawking (actual cosmologist) :” "All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning…”

Twhitehead (self proclaimed cosmologist): “There is no evidence…”

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
"There is no place for God in theories on the creation of the Universe."

Stephen Hawking.

Hawking may indeed have stated in the past that belief in a creator was not incompatible with science, but if you have the time or inclination to read his new book 'The Grand Design' I'm afraid you'll find he concludes that 'the Big Bang was an inevitab ...[text shortened]... suit your argument, even though taken out of context and which ignore his more recent comments.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, if you can tell me exactly what you believe and stop beating about the bush.