The Holy Spirit

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes, big bang is not a very apt description, for as yet, i have yet to observe harmony
from an explosion. The bible itself does not give details, all it states is that God is
abundant in dynamic energy, and as we know, the universe and the matter in it is pure
energy. Is it not the case?

Explosions create patterns.
http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/nuke.jpg

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes, big bang is not a very apt description, for as yet, i have yet to observe harmony
from an explosion.

The big bang refers to the rapid expansion of space itself. As such, it is not the same as a typical explosion in space, which is rapid expansion (or rather 'outward movement from a central area'😉 of matter or energy through space.
However, if you haven't observed harmony from an explosion, you haven't listened to the sound of a racing car. There was an episode of Top Gear where they made the theme song using only the sounds of engines.

Originally posted by JS357
Simple and pretty satisfying. So if for example, thinkers in Biblical times theorized a one-substance ontology for non-living matter, two for non-human life (animated matter), and three for humans (animated matter with a transcendent aspect) your answer would fit. If they thought we are in God's image, then we would be similar to God in this respect. The conc ...[text shortened]... uld be body, soul, spirit, or it could be body, mind, soul, depending how people use the terms.

The Holy Trinity in Hinduism is Brahma the Creator,Vishnu the Preserver,Shiva the Destroyer.

Originally posted by JS357
I was taught that if I think I understand the Trinity, that means I don't.

JS357,

If I came down too hard on you I ask for your forgiveness. I tried to erase the retort but it was too late.

So I am sorry I told you to go rot in your sins. I retract that and ask you to forgive the retort.

"The Spirit of Christ" by Andrew Murray is a very good book if you want to get beyond Internet "chat level" to some in depth appreciation for the topic of the Holy Spirit.

Books by Andrew Murray:

http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/[WORD TOO LONG]

And of course, there is always the realization that our understanding is superfiscial.

Originally posted by jaywill
JS357,

If I came down too hard on you I ask for your forgiveness. I tried to erase the retort but it was too late.

So I am sorry I told you to go rot in your sins. I retract that and ask you to forgive the retort.

[b] "The Spirit of Christ" by Andrew Murray is a very good book if you want to get beyond Internet "chat level" ...[text shortened]... g

And of course, there is always the realization that our understanding is superfiscial.[/b]

No offense taken. Everybody has their moments.

That book appears to be available on line at http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/murray/7764/7764c.htm

if I am looking at the right book.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Palynka
Explosions create patterns.
http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/nuke.jpg

wow, that is an incredible image. I really dont know anything about the subject to be
honest, but it is interesting never the less.

Originally posted by twhitehead
The big bang refers to the rapid expansion of space itself. As such, it is not the same as a typical explosion in space, which is rapid expansion (or rather 'outward movement from a central area'😉 of matter or energy through space.
However, if you haven't observed harmony from an explosion, you haven't listened to the sound of a racing car. There was an episode of Top Gear where they made the theme song using only the sounds of engines.

i thought i wasn't allowed to correspond with you, but i see you have issued a writ and I
am no longer excommunicated, actually i loath top gear, its the most utterly boring
program on tv, just some old guys slavering over cars, I cannot watch it even for a
moment.

Originally posted by rvsakhadeo
The Holy Trinity in Hinduism is Brahma the Creator,Vishnu the Preserver,Shiva the Destroyer.

yes i heard that this is where the Greeks got the idea originally.

Originally posted by JS357
No offense taken. Everybody has their moments.

That book appears to be available on line at http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/murray/7764/7764c.htm

if I am looking at the right book.

Thanks.

I like this link thanks.
Kelly

Originally posted by RJHinds
The BIg Bang implies an explosion, which does not seem to
harmonize with the Holy Bible to me. God spoke things into
existence. This implies the use of sound waves but not an
explosion, which destroyes things.

It was actually less like an explosion and more like the expansion of everything!! Time and space and matter 🙂




Manny

Originally posted by twhitehead
The big bang refers to the rapid expansion of space itself. As such, it is not the same as a typical explosion in space, which is rapid expansion (or rather 'outward movement from a central area'😉 of matter or energy through space.
However, if you haven't observed harmony from an explosion, you haven't listened to the sound of a racing car. There was an episode of Top Gear where they made the theme song using only the sounds of engines.

Yes LOL







Manny

Originally posted by menace71
It was actually less like an explosion and more like the expansion of everything!! Time and space and matter 🙂




Manny

You say that like you know.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You say that like you know.
Kelly

It's the best model of what is seen and known. It does not militate against Creation or the bible. I'm no expert but I've done enough research and reading to believe the BB is the best model. There are issues with it as with any model but it best fits what we know about the universe so far. Do you have a better model? Sure you can say God did it and that is it but there is no sin in trying to understand the hows. Oh and it was the expansion of everything in the universe Time / Space / Matter ect



Manny

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i heard that this is where the Greeks got the idea originally.

The "law of threes" is a universal idea. It has been passed from culture to cultre many times I suspect.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
The "law of threes" is a universal idea. It has been passed from culture to cultre many times I suspect.

Also RC it's possible just because an idea seems pagan does not mean there is not truth in an idea. Maybe these so called pagan trinities were just imitations of the actually true reality of God. I heard the story of the Gospel is in the stars.





Manny