the insanity of faith

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Dodged with the elegance of a ballerina. I ask you again who forces you to love or hate someone?

Why have you introduced the word 'force'?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Why have you introduced the word 'force'?

Either you choose to love someone or you are forced to love them. What other option is there?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Describe it, what does it look like, sound like and so on? I give you someone could do those things without love, so what is only done with it? You seem to have a view that Christians don't act out of love, so what is it you see, or do not see while examining their motives?

Of course Christians act out of love, just like anyone else acts out of love. I just don't believe this extends to enemies. - Love is a genuine emotion we hold for people or things we care about. I don't believe even a genuine and devout Christian truly 'cares' about their enemies.

I do understand though why you would wish to water down 'love' to being kindness and turning the other cheek. This of course is much easier to apply to our enemies. - Again we return to Jesus telling us to walk on water and Christians proudly walking on snow, believing they have succeeded in fulfilling His instruction.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So you do not act in kindness to your wife because you love her?

This is the last time I am going to tell you not to reference my wife in your replies. Do so again and i will report you to administration.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Of course Christians act out of love, just like anyone else acts out of love. I just don't believe this extends to enemies. - Love is a genuine emotion we hold for people or things we care about. I don't believe even a genuine and devout Christian truly 'cares' about their enemies.

I do understand though why you would wish to water down 'love' to ...[text shortened]... Christians proudly walking on snow, believing they have succeeded in fulfilling His instruction.

So you are saying it is impossible to care for your enemies?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Either you choose to love someone or you are forced to love them. What other option is there?

Love is neither chosen or forced. It is felt.

I'm sorry you have never experienced this.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
This is the last time I am going to tell you not to reference my wife in your replies. Do so again and i will report you to administration.

My apologies. Do you not act in kindness towards those you love?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
My apologies. Do you not act in kindness towards those you love?

Yes. I can be kind to those i love and don't love. What's your point?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Love is neither chosen or forced. It is felt.

I'm sorry you have never experienced this.

Love is more than just a feeling, it is a decision to accept and cherish someone just as they are, in spite of their flaws.

I'm sorry you have never experienced this.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Yes. I can be kind to those i love and don't love. What's your point?

If you are kind towards those you love how do you know that someone else is not being kind towards someone they love?

Originally posted by @whodey
So you would disagree with what Paul said was agape love?

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, alw ...[text shortened]... r job by distinguishing between the many different kinds of love.

Are you familiar with them?

Never mind responding wrong text

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Of course Christians act out of love, just like anyone else acts out of love. I just don't believe this extends to enemies. - Love is a genuine emotion we hold for people or things we care about. I don't believe even a genuine and devout Christian truly 'cares' about their enemies.

I do understand though why you would wish to water down 'love' to ...[text shortened]... Christians proudly walking on snow, believing they have succeeded in fulfilling His instruction.

You may carry on like that, that doesn't mean everyone else does. It also isn't watering down love either! It shows how powerful love actually is, that it can be given to an enemy who more than likely doesn't deserve it. Which is the point of not holding wrongs against another. Anyone can love those who love them, God shows His love towards us while we are sinners. He tells us to behave the same way towards those who hate us.

Being perfect as He is.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you are kind towards those you love how do you know that someone else is not being kind towards someone they love?

The point is, kindness is not love. I can be kind to enemies and friends, but can only love friends.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Love is more than just a feeling, it is a decision to accept and cherish someone just as they are, in spite of their flaws.

I'm sorry you have never experienced this.

There is no 'decision' involved.

Sorry you are not understanding this. (The same applies to belief in God).

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You may carry on like that, that doesn't mean everyone else does. It also isn't watering down love either! It shows how powerful love actually is, that it can be given to an enemy who more than likely doesn't deserve it. Which is the point of not holding wrongs against another. Anyone can love those who love them, God shows His love towards us while we are ...[text shortened]... inners. He tells us to behave the same way towards those who hate us.

Being perfect as He is.

There isn't a man or woman alive who truly loves an enemy.

Trust me on this. 😉