Spirituality
16 Aug 13
Originally posted by RJHindsState my question.
You made a strawman argument to debate and I already corrected it and answered all your questions. That debate is dead and there is no point in you beating a dead horse.
The Instructor
Then state your answer.
So that everyone can see how right you are.
(I don't care if I or anyone agrees with the answer - just want proof you gave one)
And then for good measure define strawman argument and show where I used that.
Go on. I dare you!
Originally posted by wolfgang59From wolfgang59:
State my question.
Then state your answer.
So that everyone can see how right you are.
(I don't care if I or anyone agrees with the answer - just want proof you gave one)
And then for good measure define strawman argument and show where I used that.
Go on. I dare you!
How do you tell which passages are literal and which are not? I'm thinking particularly of Genesis and your creation myth?
RJHinds ANSWERS:
1. Intelligence.
People with lower intelligence than me can determine in most cases what has other than the literal meaning. It is the way they use their intelligence that makes the difference.
Certainly we know that the Bible has figures of speech, like a camel going through the eye of a needle, which is meant to be an exaggeration in the same manner as raining cats and dogs. However, the general rule is to take everything literal as long as it makes sense or unless you have some reason from the Holy Bible that conflicts with the literal interpretation. Then this has to be reconciled by using reason and logic.
The Holy Bible is like a mystery book in which you have to gather all the clues together from every portion to really understand it all. It even tells us "here a little, there a little."
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
(Isaiah 28:13 KJV)
2. This video may help you understand why the Genesis account is literal history.
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Definition of strawman argument:
A strawman argument is a fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.
Here is your strawman:
From wolfgang59:
You are always saying that the bible should be taken literally.
From RJHinds:
I never said such a thing. The Holy Bible has both literal and spiritual meanings.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsA strawman argument is when you change the proposition being argued
[b]From wolfgang59:
How do you tell which passages are literal and which are not? I'm thinking particularly of Genesis and your creation myth?
RJHinds ANSWERS:
1. Intelligence.
People with lower intelligence than me can determine in most cases what has other than the literal meaning. It is the way they use their intelligence that makes the ...[text shortened]... said such a thing. The Holy Bible has both literal and spiritual meanings.
The Instructor[/b]
over and substitute something similar which is manifestly true or untrue.
I have not done that.
You did not show how intelligence allows you to deduce the literal from non-literal - and failed to comment on the obvious deduction that everyone of
greater intelligence than you would come to the same conclusions.
Originally posted by wolfgang59That is too complicated to show on here.
A strawman argument is when you change the proposition being argued
over and substitute something similar which is manifestly true or untrue.
I have not done that.
You did not show how intelligence allows you to deduce the literal from non-literal - and failed to comment on the obvious deduction that everyone of
greater intelligence than you would come to the same conclusions.
The Instructor