14 Jun 05
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Originally posted by frogstompgot a citation?
In a typical theological treatise :
page 1.
two choices are given when in fact there are three options :
a premise that because something is not known to be true, it is assumed to be false :
a series of increasingly unacceptable ...[text shortened]... pply :
and there are always more than 2 pages.
(P.S. I figure you replaced the term "scientific" with "theological"😉
15 Jun 05
Originally posted by telerionSpeaking of vectors and posts, rhinoceri can spray urine for a distance of more than 30 feet. The stream disperses somewhat conically, but the thrust vector is towards the rhino's nose.
Does anybody else think that the term orthogonality should apply to posts as well as vectors?
I wonder if RB has seen a rhino up close?
15 Jun 05
Originally posted by KneverKnight🙂
Speaking of vectors and posts, rhinoceri can spray urine for a distance of more than 30 feet. The stream disperses somewhat conically, but the thrust vector is towards the rhino's nose.
I wonder if RB has seen a rhino up close?
Am I doing my linear algebra wrong because when I take this
Originally posted by frogstomp
everyone lied
all lLiars go to hell
therefore Empty Heaven
and then cross it with this
Originally posted by Arby Hill
Jesus Came to Save Sinners.
The Bible does say that nerrow is the way to Heaven.
I get this
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15 Jun 05
Originally posted by ColettiI think it is you who is equivocating.
Yes, it you are going to use the term in the same fashion as the original use. A liar is some one who lies frequently - not anyone who has ever told a lie.
Look at Arby Hill's post. The entire context of their exchange begins hear. Everything before that is rendered moot by the structure of Arby Hill's post.
everyone has liad in their life. The book of Rev. says that all liars will be found in hell.
This says nothing about lying frequently. Arby Hill is clearly saying that lying even once makes you a liar. Punto. Finito. QED.
Arby Hill's post is entirely self-contained.
Let me paraphrase only slightly.
Arby Hill: "Everyone has lied at least once. All liars go to Hell."
Frogstomp: "Since you cannot both be in Heaven and in Hell, it must be that Heaven is empty (empty of human souls)"
Frogstomp was not responding to posts from before, but rather exclusively to Arby Hill. Therefore the original use of the word "liar" is of no importance within the context of the two's short exchange.
15 Jun 05
Originally posted by telerionRB did not say that everyone who lies is a liar. He said that everyone has told a lie, AND liars will go to hell. You made the assumption that everyone who has ever told a lie IS a liar.
I think it is you who is equivocating.
Look at Arby Hill's post. The entire context of their exchange begins hear. Everything before that is rendered moot by the structure of Arby Hill's post.
[b]everyone has liad in their life. The book of Rev. says that all liars will be found in hell.
This says nothing about lying frequently. Arby Hill ...[text shortened]... al use of the word "liar" is of no importance within the context of the two's short exchange.[/b]
The point of making a logical statement is to first understand and THEN state the authors intent in logical form. So you should at least ask RB if he thinks everyone is a liar because everyone has lied.
But what I think RB is trying to say is that everyone is a potential liar because everyone has lied at some time. And no liar can go to heaven, therefore we need Christ to redeem us and keeps us from becoming liars.
You are trying to impose onto RB something he did not say because you want RB to contradict himself. I know the tenets of Christianity are not self contradicting, and that RB is a Christian. For that reason I give RB the benefit of the doubt. I know he might contradict himself by mistake, but in-so-far as his beliefs are Christian, they are not contradictory.