there is no difference between god and the tooth fairy

@kellyjay said
Homosexuality was never acceptable in scripture.

Do you believe the secular government in the country you live should discriminate against homosexuals?

@kellyjay said
Churches are not the standard for righteousness neither pastors, you have to study the scriptures for truth on any topic. Just because there are disagreements doesn’t mean there is not a correct answer. If it is nothing more than your desires then nothing outside of you will matter.

Homosexuality was never acceptable in scripture.

If we are made in the image of God, then where do you believe desires, attractions, and appreciations come from?

By referring to "scripture" in the way that you do, why do you seem to omit fortune-cookie sayings?

I hope you are not one of those "White" American Christians who are trying to pit the Gays against the Jews.

@kellyjay said
Neither means anything towards God, you are either walking with Him or not.

@divegeester said:
Well I don’t know anything about your church group, but I would say that you are better off out of the corporate denominational system.

KellyJay replied:
Neither means anything towards God, you are either walking with Him or not.

Ok KellyJay here’s a scenario for you:
If person A if in a church which which has a doctrine of spiritually discriminating against homosexually, and person B is in a church which has a policy of tolerating homosexuals; would that “mean anything towards God”?

You’re probably going to avoid answering as usual, but my point here is that your “all that matters is walking with him” faux libertarian riff is just a front I sense. Which is why I keep asking you these dichotomous questions to try an draw out your actual truth. And of course why you keep avoiding them.

Ok KellyJay here’s a scenario for you:
If person A if in a church which which has a doctrine of spiritually discriminating against homosexually, and person B is in a church which has a policy of tolerating homosexuals; would that “mean anything towards God”?

I would hope for at least a cupcake battle at a bake sale.

@kevin-eleven said
I would hope for at least a cupcake battle at a bake sale.

“Cupcake battle” sounds like when it kicks off in one of your bars.

@divegeester said
“Cupcake battle” sounds like when it kicks off in one of your bars.

One of my bars? What do you mean?

@kevin-eleven said
If we are made in the image of God, then where do you believe desires, attractions, and appreciations come from?

By referring to "scripture" in the way that you do, why do you seem to omit fortune-cookie sayings?

I hope you are not one of those "White" American Christians who are trying to pit the Gays against the Jews.

Everything was created by God, but not every impulse is something we should follow
simply because we have them. Constraints are an important part of life, we cannot
function properly without them, if we were totally free of all constraints would be
completely unable to move or function. Floating in space there would be nothing
about us that would allow us to move, completely free isn't something to be
grasped, we need to know how to properly constrain ourselves.

Stop signs allow the flow of traffic without cars running into each other, marriage
between one man and a woman restricts sex to marriage so sexual diseases and
unwanted babies would almost go away if we would limit our partners to one,
staying faithful to one spouse keeps families intact. The list goes on and on about
restricting our desires, we don't take from others what is not ours, and we don't
murder because we become angry.

The wisdom found in scripture is what we could if wanted call the rules of the road
to life. Driving we follow the rules of the road, but we know even following them
you can still get into accidents due to others not following them, but if everyone
did there would be a lot fewer accidents.

@divegeester said

@divegeester said:
Well I don’t know anything about your church group, but I would say that you are better off out of the corporate denominational system.

KellyJay replied:
Neither means anything towards God, you are either walking with Him or not.

Ok KellyJay here’s a scenario for you:
If person A if in a church which which has a doctrine of spiri ...[text shortened]... ichotomous questions to try an draw out your actual truth. And of course why you keep avoiding them.

This is not a church question it is what does scripture say? Do you know?

@kellyjay said
This is not a church question it is what does scripture say? Do you know?

Another dodge noted.

@kevin-eleven said
If we are made in the image of God, then where do you believe desires, attractions, and appreciations come from?

By referring to "scripture" in the way that you do, why do you seem to omit fortune-cookie sayings?

I hope you are not one of those "White" American Christians who are trying to pit the Gays against the Jews.

So what you're saying is that ALL sexual desires come from God. Doesn't matter whether straight, gay, bi, etc.... it's all from God and He likely doesn't condemn any of it.

This is likely the same belief of someone who is gay.... and Christian.

@divegeester said
Another dodge noted.

You are looking for personal opinions when addressing biblical issues. Scripture trumps opinion!

@kellyjay said
You are looking for personal opinions when addressing biblical issues. Scripture trumps opinion!

Good to know you have no personal opinions on scripture.

@divegeester said
Good to know you have no personal opinions on scripture.

I can be proven wrong where what I am saying goes against Biblical text.

@kellyjay said
I can be proven wrong where what I am saying goes against Biblical text.

But you are, very pointedly actually, avoiding saying anything! 😆

Do you feel like answering my question from earlier about people attending churches which hold differing doctrines to your church, or do you just prefer to continue your farcical dodging dance?

@divegeester said
But you are, very pointedly actually, avoiding saying anything! 😆

Do you feel like answering my question from earlier about people attending churches which hold differing doctrines to your church, or do you just prefer to continue your farcical dodging dance?

I'm telling you scripture is the source of the answers and if I get it wrong there,
there I can be corrected. You are the one that puts your "feelings, ideas, opinions"
at the pinnacle of truth over scripture. The same thing is true for churches, they
like individuals can get it right or wrong, the same thing is true for pastors and
priests, opinions over scripture an error, getting the scripture wrong by either
neglect, misinterpreting them through not properly systematically studying them
keeps us lost, and will keep leading us astray not much different than not
following a map properly, or having a broken compass. Even Satan used scripture,
and Jesus corrected him with scripture.