08 Jan 11
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On this day in 1697 poor old Thomas Aikenhead became the last person to be executed for blasphemy in the UK, he was 23yrs old. He was hanged for his 'crimes', he was indicted in December 1696, the indicment read -
the prisoner had repeatedly maintained, in conversation, that theology was a rhapsody of ill-invented nonsense, patched up partly of the moral doctrines of philosophers, and partly of poetical fictions and extravagant chimeras: That he ridiculed the holy scriptures, calling the Old Testament Ezra's fables, in profane allusion to Esop's Fables; That he railed on Christ, saying, he had learned magick in Egypt, which enabled him to perform those pranks which were called miracles: That he called the New Testament the history of the imposter Christ; That he said Moses was the better artist and the better politician; and he preferred Mahomet to Christ: That the Holy Scriptures were stuffed with such madness, nonsense, and contradictions, that he admired the stupidity of the world in being so long deluded by them: That he rejected the mystery of the Trinity as unworthy of refutation; and scoffed at the incarnation of Christ.
Thank God (pun intended) this disgraceful nonsense is no more in most of the world. To those Christians who have been criticising some elements of the Islamic faith of late regarding it's stance towards blasphemy, it wasn't too long ago your faith was carrying out the same atrocities.
We can only hope Asia Noreen doesn't go the same way as Thomas Aikenhead.
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobThanks for this timely reminder, Proper Knob.
Who?
On this day in 1697 poor old Thomas Aikenhead became the last person to be executed for blasphemy in the UK, he was 23yrs old. He was hanged for his 'crimes', he was indicted in December 1696, the indicment read -
[i]the prisoner had repeatedly maintained, in conversation, that theology was a rhapsody of ill-invented nonsense, patched up par ...[text shortened]... atrocities.
We can only hope Asia Noreen doesn't go the same way as Thomas Aikenhead.
I assume the christians will not respond or divert your arguement, but in the off chance that they seriously look at the implications of your op, then I think nothing short of a direct confession of the atrocities carried out in the name of "the church" should preceed any other response that they may have.
When I hearof a story such as this one I always think of the thousands of stories like this that never see the light of day.
God bless these trailblazers that put these revolutionary ideas (revolutionry at the time), ahead of their lives!
09 Jan 11
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Originally posted by Proper KnobI have posted here before about atrocities carried out by the church in the name of Christ. The beginning of this seems to have occured once theocracies came into existence via Constitine. Before this time Christians were the ones hunted down for not bowing to the gods of Rome and killed. Today theocracies abound in the Islamic world as where they are absent in the Christian world. The result is what you see before you which are head hunts for infidels and those accused of blasphemy and no such witch hunts in Christiandom.
[Thank God (pun intended) this disgraceful nonsense is no more in most of the world. To those Christians who have been criticising some elements of the Islamic faith of late regarding it's stance towards blasphemy, it wasn't too long ago your faith was carrying out the same atrocities.
We can only hope Asia Noreen doesn't go the same way as Thomas Aikenhead.[/b]
Statism is bad enough but when they evoke the name of God as backing their actions the results are horrid.
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobPoor old Tommy should have kept his mouth shut. Then they wouldn't have hanged him. Right?
Who?
On this day in 1697 poor old Thomas Aikenhead became the last person to be executed for blasphemy in the UK, he was 23yrs old. He was hanged for his 'crimes', he was indicted in December 1696, the indicment read -
[i]the prisoner had repeatedly maintained, in conversation, that theology was a rhapsody of ill-invented nonsense, patched up par ...[text shortened]... atrocities.
We can only hope Asia Noreen doesn't go the same way as Thomas Aikenhead.
You have to watch out for those guys with the gallows. I mean, if someone told you to shut up or get hanged, what would you do?
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by josephwI'd rather die in protest than not be allowed to speak😛
Poor old Tommy should have kept his mouth shut. Then they wouldn't have hanged him. Right?
You have to watch out for those guys with the gallows. I mean, if someone told you to shut up or get hanged, what would you do?
09 Jan 11
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Originally posted by Proper Knob[/i]That was over 300 years ago! Time doesn't make something less wrong, just less relevant. TODAY people in some countries are being executed for their beliefs or political persuasions in the name of some god or another.
Who?
On this day in 1697 poor old Thomas Aikenhead became the last person to be executed for blasphemy in the UK, he was 23yrs old. He was hanged for his 'crimes', he was indicted in December 1696, the indicment read -
[i]the prisoner had repeatedly maintained, in conversation, that theology was a rhapsody of ill-invented nonsense, patched up par atrocities.
We can only hope Asia Noreen doesn't go the same way as Thomas Aikenhead.
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by josephwJust imagine for a moment that Jesus of Nazareth followed your advice.
Poor old Tommy should have kept his mouth shut. Then they wouldn't have hanged him. Right?
You have to watch out for those guys with the gallows. I mean, if someone told you to shut up or get hanged, what would you do?
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by divegeesterGranted it was over 300yrs ago, but that is something to celebrate. It should be noted that blasphemy wasn't completey abolished in England until 2008, it still stands in Scotland and N Ireland.
[/i]That was over 300 years ago! Time doesn't make something less wrong, just less relevant. [b]TODAY people in some countries are being executed for their beliefs or political persuasions in the name of some god or another.[/b]
TODAY people in some countries are being executed for their beliefs or political persuasions in the name of some god or another.
I know, hence my mention of Asia Noreen. The quicker the stain of religion fades from humanity the better in my opinion. Too many people have died and are dying over a load of nonsense.
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobI'd rather take Jesus' advice and mind my own business.
Just imagine for a moment that Jesus of Nazareth followed your advice.
Imagine that I would go into a Muslim nation somewhere and in the public square start shouting out loud that Mohamed was a fraud.
How long do you think I'd live?
09 Jan 11
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Originally posted by Proper KnobDo you want to hear something funny. Arizona just passed some illegal immigration laws that the federal government had not been enforcing for over half a century!!
[b]Granted it was over 300yrs ago, but that is something to celebrate. It should be noted that blasphemy wasn't completey abolished in England until 2008, it still stands in Scotland and N Ireland.
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To allow such laws to remain on the books in my opinion is just governmnetal lazyness/oversight. Laws are insignificant unless they are enforced. Of course, who can blame them as they drown in a sea of letigious, never ending bureaucratic poo. The bottom line is that they had not been enforced since the 1600's, right?
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by josephwBut Jesus of Nazareth didn't mind his own business did he?
I'd rather take Jesus' advice and mind my own business.
Imagine that I would go into a Muslim nation somewhere and in the public square start shouting out loud that Mohamed was a fraud.
How long do you think I'd live?
He didn't say to himself -
'I better keep my mouth shut otherwise i might get in trouble.'
09 Jan 11
Originally posted by Proper Knob"Out of curiousity, do you think the killing of Thomas Aikenhead was justified?"
I can't be bothered to explain it to you. It's par of the course that you should get lost and confused in a simple thread.
Out of curiousity, do you think the killing of Thomas Aikenhead was justified?
Of course not! Killing in the name of God is never justified. That's why you should try to see through the morass of deception surrounding what is truly the Church and that corrupt religious system in all it's guises.
Do you think it was justified to kill Jesus?
Of course not. Jesus was innocent. But His death justifies us if we believe.
Just-if-i'd never sinned.