01 Mar 06
Originally posted by RolfeySeriously? Take the number of folks in the Inquisition, the Crusades, and any other European (or otherwise) campaign which could be mildly construed as religiously-based, and begin subtracting their number from Stalin and Hitler's combined 26+ million people.
can you provide figures to back up your claim at all?
As posted earlier, do the math.
01 Mar 06
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHwhile i do not know what the figures are to cover approx 4000 years of conflict in the middle east and countless thousands judeo/christian v muslim fighting it's still fair to say that even though these numbers are far less than the two world wars these figures are still high ranking on the grand scheme of things. as was my original point.
Seriously? Take the number of folks in the Inquisition, the Crusades, and any other European (or otherwise) campaign which could be mildly construed as religiously-based, and begin subtracting their number from Stalin and Hitler's combined 26+ million people.
As posted earlier, do the math.
if you rad my original post on the last page i stated that i was against the close minded belief of an excuse for war. i never said it was the number one problem, you insuated that with your weak argument.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by RolfeyActually, I was insinuating that close-minded belief has been the reason behind all wars, religious or otherwise.
while i do not know what the figures are to cover approx 4000 years of conflict in the middle east and countless thousands judeo/christian v muslim fighting it's still fair to say that even though these numbers are far less than the two world wars these figures are still high ranking on the grand scheme of things. as was my original point.
if you rad my orig ...[text shortened]... or war. i never said it was the number one problem, you insuated that with your weak argument.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHjoe stalin / hitler were fantasy figures? your insinuating clearly wasn't clear enough.
Actually, I was insinuating that close-minded belief has been the reason behind all wars, religious or otherwise.
none of this changes the fact of my statement though.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by powershakerI just want to know where you came up with that stat. It clearly implies to me that you have neither any knowledge or understanding of either evolutionary biology or statistics.
Rolfey, the proof is in the cell, in the trees, in the improbability and astronomical certainy that we have an Earth positioned perfectly and measured perfecly in hundreds of different ways to support life. To say this was done by chance is clearly the state of being obtuse! And, the odds: 1 in 1, 000, 000,000, 000,000,000, 000,000,000, 000,000, 000, 000, etc...
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHHow about the 100,000 Iraqi deaths because "god told me [GW Bush] to do it [invade Iraq]"? GW is on record as saying that god told him to invade iraq.
Seriously? Take the number of folks in the Inquisition, the Crusades, and any other European (or otherwise) campaign which could be mildly construed as religiously-based, and begin subtracting their number from Stalin and Hitler's combined 26+ million people.
As posted earlier, do the math.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml
That's right here, right now. You want more? I'll find you some more.
01 Mar 06
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHYou never hear of wars for atheism though, do you?
Seriously? Take the number of folks in the Inquisition, the Crusades, and any other European (or otherwise) campaign which could be mildly construed as religiously-based, and begin subtracting their number from Stalin and Hitler's combined 26+ million people.
As posted earlier, do the math.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHNeither Hitler nor Stalin were interested in the least in religion. These deaths happened irrespective of religion. No-one has said that religion is the worlds number one killer, but the christians have certainly had a good go at the record. GW's war on Islam should rack the figures up a bit too.
Seriously? Take the number of folks in the Inquisition, the Crusades, and any other European (or otherwise) campaign which could be mildly construed as religiously-based, and begin subtracting their number from Stalin and Hitler's combined 26+ million people.
As posted earlier, do the math.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHBut don't forget to weigh the crusade deaths against population. Since the world popn in 1000AD was around the 300,000,000 mark and it now approaches 7 billion, multiply each casualty of the crusades by 2000 times to work out the equivalent destruction today. GWB's iraqi incursion would only require the death of 50 muslims (and 1.2 crusaders) during the crusades. Very low key obviously. Indeed, Hitler and Stalin's combined 26 million deaths would only require 13,000 to die during the crusades to be on the same relative scale.
Seriously? Take the number of folks in the Inquisition, the Crusades, and any other European (or otherwise) campaign which could be mildly construed as religiously-based, and begin subtracting their number from Stalin and Hitler's combined 26+ million people.
As posted earlier, do the math.
01 Mar 06
Originally posted by scottishinnzSure about that Hitler thing?
Neither Hitler nor Stalin were interested in the least in religion. These deaths happened irrespective of religion. No-one has said that religion is the worlds number one killer, but the christians have certainly had a good go at the record. GW's war on Islam should rack the figures up a bit too.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm