Trump vows to prosecute Hillary

Originally posted by DeepThought
No you dope. What Suzianne is saying is that the content was not classified at the time she put the material onto her server. They were made secret later.

That is not the way it works. First, Hillary should not be posting government business on a private server. There was a rule that required all State Department business to be conducted through secure government channels. Second, classified government material is classified upon origination. The information is not unclassified and becomes classified at a later date. It is the other way asround. Classified material can be declassified at a later date. So she is mistaken on that point.

I have never heard of unclassified material being changed to classified. And certainly that would not happen to 600 emails. The fact that the Secretary of State would not know any of that was classified is just not credible to me.

Originally posted by FMF
But you admitted that you have no way of knowing what he believes about those 11 million people is true or not. I would have expected your notion of 'making sense' ~ and support for a man you believe espouses "Christian values" ~ to have a more prominent element of integrity and demand-for-truth in it.

Would you urge him not to deport those 11 million people?

Did I say he espoused Christian values?

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Did I say he espoused Christian values?

You were asked point blank: "What Christian values does Trump espouse?"

And you replied: "Upholding the Constitution. Justice, doing the right thing." Peculiar answer, I'll grant you that. But it was your answer nevertheless.

Originally posted by FMF
Is this how you would characterize the 11 million people Trump wants to deport? They won't work? And they live off what they can get for free?

Those people are criminals that have disobeyed the law. That is why they are called illegal aliens or illegal immigrants instead of legal immigrants. 😏

Originally posted by FMF
You were asked point blank: [b]"What Christian values does Trump espouse?"

And you replied: "Upholding the Constitution. Justice, doing the right thing." Peculiar answer, I'll grant you that. But it was your answer nevertheless.[/b]

Trump said he was Presbyterian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterianism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Presbyterianism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_in_the_United_States_of_America

https://www.presbyterianmission.org/ministries/today/what-do-presbyterians-believe/

The Near Genius 😏

Originally posted by FMF
But you admitted that you have no way of knowing what he believes about those 11 million people is true or not. I would have expected your notion of 'making sense' ~ and support for a man you believe espouses "Christian values" ~ to have a more prominent element of integrity and demand-for-truth in it.

Would you urge him not to deport those 11 million people?

What I think is irrelevant, but I would vote for him if he is the only choice as a Republican.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
I don't have a problem with people in need. What I am against is the ones who will not work and want to live off what they can get for free.
Sadly, politicians seem to offer for free, just to stay in power.

Agreed. And studies here in australia have shown that refugees have the best work ethics, and I suspect it's the same ROUND THE WORLD'
My family were refugees from Hungary and despite racists attitudes hindering my dad getting a job, my family saved up and bought their own home in 4 years. We had absoltuely nothing when we came (I was 6)

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Agreed. And studies here in australia have shown that refugees have the best work ethics, and I suspect it's the same ROUND THE WORLD'
My family were refugees from Hungary and despite racists attitudes hindering my dad getting a job, my family saved up and bought their own home in 4 years. We had absoltuely nothing when we came (I was 6)

This is the story right around the world. It is a fact that can be proved with statistics that immigrants [even illegal ones] do make a significant contribution often moreso than the indigenous population, to the development of any country. There is a period that the immigrants need for settling in and it is in this settling in period that the govt and other institutions are required to assist. Selfish locals are the ones who oppose immigrants and it is often because these immigrants enter the country with nothing but their clothes on their backs.

If it were wealthy immigrants then these same selfish locals would welcome them into their country. So its clearly a case of discrimination against the poor and needy.

Originally posted by Rajk999
You believe in forcing people to vote? On what grounds?

To have their say in the country (world) they live.

I shudder to think that left wing voters stopped voting and the extreme right wingers suddenly imposed a bunch a draconian (hitler?) laws

That should be enough for a thinking person

edit: sorry, I answered this earlier

Originally posted by Rajk999
This is the story right around the world. It is a fact that can be proved with statistics that immigrants [even illegal ones] do make a significant contribution often moreso than the indigenous population, to the development of any country. There is a period that the immigrants need for settling in and it is in this settling in period that the govt and othe ...[text shortened]... ome them into their country. So its clearly a case of discrimination against the poor and needy.

We have been allowing these immigrants to come in to the USA illegally and work for many years illegally while at the same time allowing many to take advantage of our welfare and medicare system meant for those citizens in financial trouble. There was not much complaint about it or a will to stop it because there were many hard workers among them who would work for the low minimum wages that many Americans refused to accept. I was not worried about it either in the beginning because they were not taking my job and most of them were providing much needed labor. That is why we have 11 or 12 million illegal immigrants here now.

However, there are also those that have brought in drugs to sell and those that have stolen and damaged property from American citizens. Our legal system seems unable or unwilling to handle all the crime, including murder, resulting from their presents. We have a policy of arrest and release or deportation to Mexico and return by Mexico. Now, because of the Obama administration we can not even deport them anymore.

It has gotten out of control to the point that we don't know who is coming over the border. We need a defendable border, since we can no longer trust people to follow the rules by entering the USA by legal means.

Trump's wall may not solve the problem, but it seems something that is worth a try. I certainly don't see how Obama's approach to the problem is going to help. That is one of the reasons I will vote for Donald Trump for President. 😏

Originally posted by checkbaiter
What I think is irrelevant, but I would vote for him if he is the only choice as a Republican.

And I think there is a definite disconnect with reality for people who think the Republican Party is the only American political party if you're even the tiniest bit religious. The Republican Party is the Party of the old, rich, white male in America. The demographic most likely to SAY they are "religious" but the very LAST demographic to actually care for the downtrodden in this country. If they actually cared for ANYone but themselves, then there would be no poverty, no gender-based income disparity, no racism, no religious intolerance, no homelessness, no hunger and no class warfare in America. Jesus Christ would NOT be a Republican.

Originally posted by RJHinds
We have been allowing these immigrants to come in to the USA illegally and work for many years illegally while at the same time allowing many to take advantage of our welfare and medicare system meant for those citizens in financial trouble. There was not much complaint about it or a will to stop it because there were many hard workers among them who would ...[text shortened]... em is going to help. That is one of the reasons I will vote for Donald Trump for President. 😏

You should be ashamed of yourself for saying this. How can you say these things and be a Christian?

WWJD? He sure as hell wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." -- Matthew 6:24, KJV

Can you possibly guess who Donald Trump serves?

Originally posted by Suzianne
And I think there is a definite disconnect with reality for people who think the Republican Party is the only American political party if you're even the tiniest bit religious. The Republican Party is the Party of the old, rich, white male in America. The demographic most likely to SAY they are "religious" but the very LAST demographic to actually care fo ...[text shortened]... omelessness, no hunger and no class warfare in America. Jesus Christ would NOT be a Republican.

OK, Let's look at your logic. Detroit hasn't had a Republican in what? 50 years? How are they doing?
How about NY, California?, etc.

Originally posted by Suzianne
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying this. How can you say these things and be a Christian?

WWJD? He sure as hell wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." -- Matthew 6:24, KJV

Can you possibly guess who Donald Trump serves?

Obama and Hillary Clinton show they serve the Muslim extremist and big government over the welfare of the American people. They did nothing to help our Ambassador and Americans in Benghzsi, Libya. Their policies do not serve the wefare of Americans now or in the future. Obama did nothing to help get our soldier released from a Mexico prison or for the Americans held captive by Iran. The Democrat policies under Obama has been a disaster.

Donald Trump has provided Americans with thousands of jobs but has not been given a chance to serve the Amercan people as a government leader. I don't see how he could serve the American people less than the present administration.

If elected President, I believe he will serve the welfare of the American people well by helping the states infested by illegal immigrants and helping correct the problems with the veterans not getting healthcare.

Donald Trump Has compassion For Americans

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Originally posted by Suzianne
And I think there is a definite disconnect with reality for people who think the Republican Party is the only American political party if you're even the tiniest bit religious. The Republican Party is the Party of the old, rich, white male in America. The demographic most likely to SAY they are "religious" but the very LAST demographic to actually care fo ...[text shortened]... omelessness, no hunger and no class warfare in America. Jesus Christ would NOT be a Republican.

You seem to forget that when the Democrats were in full power there was poverty, gender-based income disparity, racism, religious intolerance, homelessness, hunger, and class warfare in America and the rest of the world.

Jesus Christ said, ""For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you wish you can do good to them; but you do not always have Me."

(Mark 14:7 NASB)