21 Apr 21
@sonship saidI disagree, and not reflexively. To trust the word of another regarding spirituality is to neglect one's own critical faculties, which, if believer you be, your god bestowed upon you.
The point of this OP's questions was not immediate.
It is that many things we are told by SOMEBODY are matters we have to TRUST them on. To actually imagine them may not be possible for us.
Some people who have knee-jerk obligation to disagree with a Christian may argue. But the point is rather neutral.
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21 Apr 21
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To trust the word of another regarding spirituality is to neglect one's own critical faculties, which, if believer you be, your god bestowed upon you.
I know better what God has bestowed upon me than you do.
I don't think you even realize you have a human spirit.
Probably you think your human soul is your human spirit.
I would say that suspicious skepticism might be just blind prejudice rather than having healthy critical faculties necessarily. With spirituality with me it depends on what is being told me.
Why should I insist that no one can experience something before I experience that same thing in time?
Take the experience in psychological realm - marriage.
Before I go married people told me of marriage.
It was a matter of timing.
No sense of critical thinking alarmed me that such a life was impossible.
21 Apr 21
@sonship saidYou seem to think you know a lot about what I think. Do you claim telepathic abilities?
I don't think you even realize you have a human spirit.
Probably you think your human soul is your human spirit.
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21 Apr 21
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No telepathic abilities I have.
I do remember what it was like to be without Christ in my life.
I do remember my attitudes toward a few people who spoke of Jesus like they just had a talk with Jesus. I remember well my reactions.
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@avalanchethecat saidYes I do.
No you don't.
No brag. Just fact.
There is a whole dimension to human life which I think you do not even know comprises your total humanity.
I don't think you know about an entire dimension of human life involving fellowship with God.
21 Apr 21
@sonship saidNot a fact. A 'fact' is an incontravertible datum. Something which is self-evident to you but which cannot be demonstrated and proven as such to others is not a fact.
Yes I do.
No brag. Just fact.
There is a whole dimension to human life which I think you do not even know comprises your total humanity.
I don't think you know about an entire dimension of human life involving fellowship with God.
There you go again telling me what I think. It's a combination of arrogance and ignorance which you really should try to avoid.
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21 Apr 21
Not a fact. A 'fact' is an incontravertible datum. Something which is self-evident to you but which cannot be demonstrated and proven as such to others is not a fact.
I agree with some of this.
But it cuts both ways.
There you go again telling me what I think. It's a combination of arrogance and ignorance which you really should try to avoid.
I agree that this what I said could sound very arrogant.
Of course you have wee little similar feeling about things YOU say about "my god" this and "my god" that. You're so cock sure your datum is irrefutable.
But, I sympathize somewhat with the reaction of saying you don't know about your human spirit when I do.
Sometimes in life one hears of things which first miff him off.
There is the possibility that they are appreciated latter.
21 Apr 21
@sonship saidI fully understand and accept that you believe what you are saying. Some of what you believe may even be correct, although I rather doubt it from what you have revealed thus far. Those beliefs of yours related to what you think I know or believe, however, are entirely uninformed and incorrect.
@avalanchethecatNot a fact. A 'fact' is an incontravertible datum. Something which is self-evident to you but which cannot be demonstrated and proven as such to others is not a fact.
I agree with some of this.
But it cuts both ways.
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There is the possibility that they are appreciated latter.