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05 Oct 11
Originally posted by jaywillWhich is why you need an objective standard for proof.The import of the bible is the miracles it contains.
And those require a different standard of proof.
Which is not met.
There are books of history which contain no miracles. The books covering the return of a remnant of Jews from Babylon to recover the occupation of the Good Land contain no miracles but a lot of faith and h ...[text shortened]... f the goal post, ie. proof of the proof of the proof of the proof (more and more extraordinary).
Such as what science has.
Your problem is that you have simply never come close to having anything remotely close to
meeting it at any point in history ever.
I have outlined the kind of thing needed to demonstrate a being powerful enough that it is
practically indistinguishable from god that would meet my standards.
Nothing has ever happened that comes remotely close that would require me to 'move the
goalposts' if I was so minded.
However creationists move the goalposts all the time, particularly when talking about things
like evolution.
05 Oct 11
Originally posted by googlefudgeYes, we creationists love moving that goalpost so we don't have to move the
Which is why you need an objective standard for proof.
Such as what science has.
Your problem is that you have simply never come close to having anything remotely close to
meeting it at any point in history ever.
I have outlined the kind of thing needed to demonstrate a being powerful enough that it is
practically indistinguishable from god t ...[text shortened]... ists move the goalposts all the time, particularly when talking about things
like evolution.
ball. That is much easier, don't you think?