We know nothing

Originally posted by wolfgang59
If the only thing I know is that I know nothing, do I know something?

We do know something.
We really should not say that we know nothing.

But we can know something and also God could speak to us by way of revelation.
What is wrong with God communicating to man some things which he would not otherwise be able to figure out?

A man should ask herself WHY that should be a unacceptable situation.

We have intelligence to seem to figure out some things.
And also an all-knowing Creator God has revealed some important things to us through means of revelation.

Is there some reason why that just has to be an intolerable situation?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
If the only thing I know is that I know nothing, do I know something?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I agree that belief in general is a judgement based on knowledge, but don't think this is the case for 'religious belief'.

Religious belief is a judgement based on faith, not knowledge. Indeed, on occasions, religious belief is a judgement that goes against knowledge.

True story.

Originally posted by FMF
What "pure unadulterated knowledge of the truth" do you think Islamic or Hindu faith are based on?

Originally posted by Suzianne
Slow down, Hoss. This is not entirely true.

Some believe that faith is another form of knowledge.

Originally posted by josephw
None, or at best a cheap counterfeit.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Some believe that faith is another form of knowledge.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you accept and also assert that non-Christian "faith" constitutes "knowledge" in a comparable way to how you believe your Christian faith does?

Originally posted by chaney3
What a hypocrite you are.
You are a failed Christian.
You don't deserve to post.

Originally posted by chaney3
What a hypocrite you are.
You are a failed Christian.
You don't deserve to post.

Originally posted by Suzianne
"You know the sound of two hands clapping; tell me, what is the sound of one hand?" -- Hakuin Ekaku


Edit: We need a thread on koans. 🙂

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Most westerners consider koans some eastern curiosity. They want another and another.
Truth is a master gives a monk a koan to "solve" and that koan fills the monks mind night and day often for years. Sometimes the master will give them a new one, but nothing is certain in Zen. Everything is at the whim of the master, or so the texts would indicate.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
If a koan had a rational solution it wouldn't be a koan. (It's intended to exhaust the rational mind and open the door to enlightenment).

Considering someone like Robbie has only a paper thin grasp on rational thought, he is probably closer to enlightenment than the rest of us.

Originally posted by twhitehead
I had never realized that 'enlightenment' had dual (and opposite) meanings.