31 Oct 18
@sonship saidDoes your view of the trinity involve 3 distinct persons?
@ThinkOfOne
The word Elohim possesses a plural intensive syntax and is singular in meaning.
And some scholars who DO read and translate ancient Hebrew
say that the Triune God was being indicated is logical.
Any attempt to say all such readers only do so because they know no Hebrew will fail as an effective argument.
I am awaiting a reply from JewsForJesus on ELohim and Genesis 1:26,27.
@suzianne saidEvidently I needed to explicitly state it, but the the article should be read in its entirety. There's a lot more to it that the "small snippets" that I quoted.
Actually your quote supports my claim, for the Triune God is one God in three offices. One God (singular verb), yet Hebrew plural masculine name.
The same is with chayim, one speaks of all life (plural) and yet one uses singular verb with it. As in "All life is..." This grammar example is not rare, nor nonsensical.
@sonship saidRead the entire article.
@ThinkOfOne
The word Elohim possesses a plural intensive syntax and is singular in meaning.
And some scholars who DO read and translate ancient Hebrew
say that the Triune God was being indicated is logical.
Any attempt to say all such readers only do so because they know no Hebrew will fail as an effective argument.
I am awaiting a reply from JewsForJesus on ELohim and Genesis 1:26,27.
31 Oct 18
@divegeester saidWhat kind of "backup" would suffice for you?
Would care to back this up?
Elohim IS plural.
31 Oct 18
@divegeester saidOffices, persons; to-may-to, to-mah-to.
So not three distinct persons then?
@divegeester saidAs you know, I've always claimed that you do see God as a trinity, no matter how you try to deny it.
Is that a yes or a no?
Do you think that our Heavenly Father would have walked with Peter in Gethsemane as Jesus did, with equal effect? Could Jesus have appeared as "the Comforter" to equal effect? Could the Holy Spirit have directed Moses to lead his people out of Egypt as effectively as the "God of Abraham"?
So offices, persons... same thing. Throwing in caveats such as "distinct" to muddy the water fools no one.
@divegeester saidIt is what it is.
Something more than just you repeating your assertion.
You're just like Metal Brain in Debates, who says "what's your source?" whenever he runs out of things to say but still wants to butt heads.
Does your view of the trinity involve 3 distinct persons?
You know what I have said.
And you should remember that I said we can borrow the word "Persons" to express such a mystery. But we should not stress "Persons" too far.
I use "Persons" because there is hardly any other human language word which will do.
I haven't changed my belief since the last two or three or four cycles when this came up between us.
31 Oct 18
@suzianne saidIs that a yes or a no?
As you know, I've always claimed that you do see God as a trinity, no matter how you try to deny it.
Do you think that our Heavenly Father would have walked with Peter in Gethsemane as Jesus did, with equal effect? Could Jesus have appeared as "the Comforter" to equal effect? Could the Holy Spirit have directed Moses to lead his people out of Egypt as effectively as the ...[text shortened]... ces, persons... same thing. Throwing in caveats such as "distinct" to muddy the water fools no one.
31 Oct 18
@suzianne saidYou are making a bold statement about one of the names of God. You need to back it up with more than a repost of your assertion or a deflection about some character in another forum.
It is what it is.
You're just like Metal Brain in Debates, who says "what's your source?" whenever he runs out of things to say but still wants to butt heads.