17 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidThe systematic racism underpinning the death penalty in your country makes a mockery of your ideological sense of "righteousness". You are talking about the death penalty, right? And you are arguing that it is part of "righteousness", right?
You are not talking about that. Instead, you are changing the topic to color and
the possibility of racism playing a part, not the same.
17 Aug 22
@fmf saidI'm talking about the comparison between someone convicted of a crime and a
The systematic racism underpinning the death penalty in your country makes a mockery of your ideological sense of "righteousness". You are talking about the death penalty, right? And you are arguing that it is part of "righteousness", right?
unborn child, you are not.
@fmf saidI'm saying that God has given us law, He has His laws, and we write ours. If we put
You are claiming that the state putting people to death is "righteousness".
together a law that isn't righteous, or if the application of those laws is not made in
righteousness that doesn't void that obeying law should be done, neither does the
law become meaningless because of lawbreakers, if a criminal breaks them if law
enforcement breaks them, or even if the ones who write laws are themselves
lawless. You want to live in a lawless society that is up to you, but this again is not
the topic, and its the last time I'm responding to you on this.
17 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidWhy would you think people being sentenced to death in your country was an example of "righteousness"?
I'm saying that God has given us law, He has His laws, and we write ours. If we put
together a law that isn't righteous, or if the application of those laws is not made in
righteousness that doesn't void that obeying law should be done, neither does the
law become meaningless because of lawbreakers, if a criminal breaks them if law
enforcement breaks them, or even if the ones who write laws are themselves
lawless.
17 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidThey are both god’s creation and deserving of a chance of repentance.
I'm talking about the comparison between someone convicted of a crime and a
unborn child, you are not.
If under your personal opinion of abortion and death penalty… i was given a choice between being an aborted foetus or a death row inmate I would choose to be the aborted foetus.
Becuase the aborted foetus would go straight to eternal bliss and the death row inmate straight to eternal suffering.
17 Aug 22
@divegeester saidI agree and only one of the two has made choices, some that they could be proud of, and others that requires grace to be forgiven for, or they die in their sins.
They are both god’s creation and deserving of a chance of repentance.
If under your personal opinion of abortion and death penalty… i was given a choice between being an aborted foetus or a death row inmate I would choose to be the aborted foetus.
Becuase the aborted foetus would go straight to eternal bliss and the death row inmate straight to eternal suffering.
Are you suggesting it is okay to kill a fetus because you know it’s future?
17 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidAll have sinned and all get a chance to repent.
I agree and only one of the two has made choices, some that they could be proud of, and others that requires grace to be forgiven for, or they die in their sins.
Are you suggesting it is okay to kill a fetus because you know it’s future?
Except those on death row who you would send straight to hell and deny them and Jesus Christ the potential of their salvation.
It is not right to deny Christ those whom are his KellyJay.
@divegeester saidNot sure where you get off, suggesting anyone is being denied the opportunity to
All have sinned and all get a chance to repent.
Except those on death row who you would send straight to hell and deny them and Jesus Christ the potential of their salvation.
It is not right to deny Christ those whom are his KellyJay.
get right with God if they are sentenced to death and put to death. The only guy
we know that joined Jesus in paradise was in the middle of being put to death due
to crimes he did; that thief was in the very process of being killed. Now is the
accepted time for salvation, not years from now; when we stand before God, it will
be for the time here; none of us is guaranteed tomorrow.
@divegeester saidNo, I don't think that's the reason.
I get slated in here because I take what I feel is an eclectic view of biblical scripture.
@divegeester saidAnd all the days before that time, there were no possibilities, no opportunities to
Difficult to repent when you’ve been executed.
turn to the Lord. You realize it is God who calls us, right? We either accept or reject
Him; it isn't like we get to put Him off till we feel like it.