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@divegeester said
I’ll answer that when you respond to the matter of the trees.
You won't answer because you don't believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave, and that would expose you for the phony Christian you claim to be.

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@secondson said
Maybe by spending more time "reading" his Bible divegeester might actually start believing what it says.
If he believes that Jesus died to save him from his "sins" and he strives to live in accordance with Jesus' commandments, what impact on divegeester's life would spending more time reading the Bible have? That's the meat of my question. That's what I want you to address.

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@secondson said
you don't believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave
It's odd that you would make this assertion about divegeester considering how many times it came up in 2018.

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@divegeester said
What do you think happened in the fall?

Why are we brought forth in iniquity?

Why have all men fallen short of the glory of God?

Why are we all born into sin?

Men/mankind was created in the image of God but we are no longer in that image.
Further...

“In Adam all men sinned”

The entire human race was in Adam when he was created. So those scriptures are correct that all men were created in God’s image. BUT things have changed and we are no longer in God’s image.

Good grief this is basic Christian fundamental doctrine!

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If we are IN Christ we are transformed into his image once again. “Christ is the image of the invisible God” (Collosians I beleive).

So we were in Adam in his image

Then the fall

Everyone born was no longer in his image

Then Christ

Restored to his image.


Where am I going wrong here Christians?

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@secondson said
You won't answer because you don't believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave, and that would expose you for the phony Christian you claim to be.
Let’s stick to the trees shall we.

One thing at a time Joseph I can see you are getting upset.

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Ok for the record (although I’ve said it many times before)

I believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave.

Now, shall we get back to your inability to recognise and deal with metaphors in the Bible Josephw?

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The trees in the garden of Eden were not real trees, they are metaphorical.

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@divegeester said
I believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave.
Why on Earth was SecondSon making the assertion that you don't believe this after those multiple threads in 2018 in which he participated?

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@fmf said
Why on Earth was SecondSon making the assertion that you don't believe this after those multiple threads in 2018 in which he participated?
SecondSon has a visceral dislike of me and desperately wants the things he says about me to be true. I suspect it is the way he copes with dissent in here vs the compliance and apparent respect he gets when he excercises his spiritual muscles in his little church.

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@fmf said
It's odd that you would make this assertion about divegeester considering how many times it came up in 2018.
Why did you post only a partial quote?

Because that's one of the ways you mischaracterize what others say.

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@fmf said
Why on Earth was SecondSon making the assertion that you don't believe this after those multiple threads in 2018 in which he participated?
“Divegeester is a fake Christian who doesn’t know the bible” and yet here I am contending for basic biblical truths with real™ Christians and I seem to be doing ok.

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@secondson said
Why did you post only a partial quote?

Because that's one of the ways you mischaracterize what others say.
Here's what you said "You won't answer because you don't believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave, and that would expose you for the phony Christian you claim to be."

Here is the assertion about divegeester that you made:

"You won't answer because you don't believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave, and that would expose you for the phony Christian you claim to be."

Why would you make that assertion when he said repeatedly TO YOU in 2018 that he believes that Jesus rose bodily from the grave?

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@divegeester said
SecondSon has a visceral dislike of me and desperately wants the things he says about me to be true. I suspect it is the way he copes with dissent in here vs the compliance and apparent respect he gets when he excercises his spiritual muscles in his little church.
I see you're upset divegeester, which is why you feel the need to be defensive and hurl vindictive insults.

You're holding grudges based on things you found in your imagination. You know nothing about me. Only what I believe, and you can't stand Christians that believe what the Bible says, which is why you take sides against them in these debates with your "friends".

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@secondson said
You know nothing about me.
You are what you post. The things you say - and the things you say about yourself - define you here. You haven't been saying "nothing".

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