What is the point of God today?

@fmf said
Nonsense. Of course you were referring to your own perspective. You said it seems kind of pointless to want help from God with repairing your marriage without the promise of eternal life. As I say, I think you have revealed more than you intended to about your mentality and your life.

Well you better check with dive because dive thinks I’m Romans1009 who he’s described as an unemployed drug user who lives with his mother in Cincinnati and who’s on welfare and the radar of law enforcement.

I don’t know too many gals who would want to marry someone like that.

I realize you’re desperate for trolling material, but you’ll get no traction with what I cited as an example because I wasn’t referring to myself.

Swing and a miss, kiddo.

@pb1022 said
Well you better check with dive because dive thinks I’m Romans1009 who he’s described as an unemployed drug user who lives with his mother in Cincinnati and who’s on welfare and the radar of law enforcement.I don’t know too many gals who would want to marry someone like that.

What on Earth are you on about now?

@fmf said
Unguarded Self-Revelation of the Day™

If I were you, I’d claim you were trolling me and that I did not wish to discuss my marriage with you and for you to, “Please desist.”

But I couldn’t care less if you try to troll me with that because I wasn’t referring to myself.

@pb1022 said
Asking God to help you repair your marriage when you know you could drop dead of a heart attack an hour later seems kind of pointless.

Speak for yourself, by all means. Sounds like you are indulging in a wee bit of dehumanization of people who don't share your beliefs here.

I am a non-believer and I have no belief in the afterlife; the "promise of eternal life" has no effect on how I live my life.

Do you really think that the desire to "repair" my marriage, if it needed it, would be "pointless" [1] if I thought about how I could die the next day, and [2] if I did not believe in everlasting life?

@pb1022 said
I couldn’t care less if you try to troll me with that because I wasn’t referring to myself.

You are not being trolled. You said a very odd thing about how you perceive the marriages of people who do not believe in eternal life.

@fmf said
What on Earth are you on about now?

You can’t simultaneously believe I’m Romans1009 (and all the biographical info dive claims about him) and also believe I have a troubled marriage.

The two don’t add up.

@pb1022 said
If I were you, I’d claim you were trolling me and that I did not wish to discuss my marriage with you and for you to, “Please desist.”

Please, do not discuss your marriage with me. If you are able to, just explain the strange thing you said about the supposed pointlessness of repairing a marriage if one thinks about the possibility of dying unexpectedly the next day.

@fmf said
You are not being trolled. You said a very odd thing about how you perceive the marriages of people who do not believe in eternal life.

No, I cited as an example the futility of God helping someone with a real-world problem when that person realizes he could drop dead of a heart attack an hour later.

I was illustrating why eternal life is certainly the hope of all Christians, but most (I think) believe God is much more with that.

@pb1022 said
No, I cited as an example the futility of God helping someone with a real-world problem when that person realizes he could drop dead of a heart attack an hour later.

Why would the realization that one "could drop dead of a heart attack" make working for marital harmony "pointless"?

@fmf said
Please, do not discuss your marriage with me. If you are able to, just explain the strange thing you said about the supposed pointlessness of repairing a marriage if one thinks about the possibility of dying unexpectedly the next day.

It’s pretty simple.

If one doesn’t believe in eternal life, then asking God for help in repairing a marriage (or any other real-world problem) seems kind of pointless when the person with the real-world problem knows he could be dead an hour later.

A lot of things (not everything) seem pointless when you don’t believe in eternal life.

@pb1022 said
If one doesn’t believe in eternal life, then asking God for help in repairing a marriage (or any other real-world problem) seems kind of pointless when the person with the real-world problem knows he could be dead an hour later.

How so? Don't you believe that God can help a believer with their problems in the here and now and offer a sense of peace that passes all understanding without the promise of eternal life?

@pb1022 said
A lot of things (not everything) seem pointless when you don’t believe in eternal life.

Do you honestly believe that something like repairing a troubled marriage is pointless when one doesn't believe in eternal life?

@fmf said
How so? Don't you believe that God can help a believer with their problems in the here and now and offer a sense of peace that passes all understanding without the promise of eternal life?

Sure, but I think the hope of eternal life is an indispensable part of it.

Where does the peace that passes all understanding come from? I think it comes from (in large part) knowing one has eternal life and that everything will be made right in the end.

@fmf said
Do you honestly believe that something like repairing a troubled marriage is pointless when one doesn't believe in eternal life?

I didn’t say it was pointless, I said it seems pointless.

Obviously there’s value in repairing any broken relationship but when death could come any moment - say an hour after a reconciliation - it certainly seems pointless without the hope of eternal life.

The reconciliation fades to nothing like everything else and loses all meaning.

@pb1022 said
Sure, but I think the hope of eternal life is an indispensable part of it.Where does the peace that passes all understanding come from? I think it comes from (in large part) knowing one has eternal life and that everything will be made right in the end.

If this is what you believe, then why did you quibble this when I said it:

For those that worship God figures in the hope of gaining eternal life, that must then be "the point of God"

You seem to be now stating that "the hope of gaining eternal life" lies at the very core of what belief in God means to a believer including at the very core of "help in the here and now" and the sense of peace that passes all understanding".