What is the point of God today?

@divegeester said
This thread isn’t about how you personally deal with “people who clearly believe in an afterlife”.. which incidentally is by you metaphorically floating word-salads on a pond.

And it’s obvious that your lack of coherent contribution to any thread in this forum reveals not a self-proclaimed sort of debate altruism, but rather an inability to address on-topic content.

I'm sure @Pianoman1 could speak for himself if only you'd somehow manage to allow that to happen by clamping your twitchy gob for let's hope a rather enduring moment.

@kevin-eleven said
I'm sure @Pianoman1 could speak for himself if only you'd somehow manage to allow that to happen by clamping your twitchy gob for let's hope a rather enduring moment.

Whoever let you out of your 3 day lock up needs to pack you up again you whining little runt.

@divegeester said
Whoever let you out of your 3 day lock up needs to pack you up again you whining little runt.

You poor, thrashing little fish. You're out of your depth, aren't you?

@pianoman1 said
I don’t want to get into a discussion of the existence of God because positions are so entrenched by both sides that it would be pointless.
No, my question is: What is the point of God now?
Thousands of years ago early man quite reasonably assumed that gods must have made the world. They had to be appeased. Today with our knowledge of evolution, Big Bang theory etc a cre ...[text shortened]... n gods. Today we are armed with the science to explain everything.
So what is the point of God now?

You voice there isn't a materialistic answer to some questions; a line is crossed. Science cannot explain everything; there is plenty of fields science utilizing measuring and testing simply have nothing to do with, so it is out of its depth. To believe it can is scientism, which is not too much different from any other belief system; its dogma is not to be questioned or consequences follow.

@pianoman1 said
I don’t want to get into a discussion of the existence of God because positions are so entrenched by both sides that it would be pointless.
No, my question is: What is the point of God now?
Thousands of years ago early man quite reasonably assumed that gods must have made the world. They had to be appeased. Today with our knowledge of evolution, Big Bang theory etc a cre ...[text shortened]... n gods. Today we are armed with the science to explain everything.
So what is the point of God now?

Could you rephrase your question in a more succinct and answerable form?

@kevin-eleven said
Could you rephrase your question in a more succinct and answerable form?

Has science made God irrelevant?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Has science made God irrelevant?

Do Timelords always write like Victorians?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Has science made God irrelevant?

No

@Pianoman1

I don’t want to get into a discussion of the existence of God because positions are so entrenched by both sides that it would be pointless.

I am still more impressed with Jesus than any entrenched arguments.

No, my question is: What is the point of God now?

What has science given us to replace God?
While there have been some great things in technical advancement, for a great part your childfen will inherit a garbage can of a world. Those who made riches off of what they did will be long gone. Your children will live in a dying, toxic, garbage can. Some are already dreaming of leaving this planet to go find another.

I think you are about to argue that science has made God obsolete. On the contrary. And once again though this advancement is impressive, I am more impressed with Jesus Christ.

Thousands of years ago early man quite reasonably assumed that gods must have made the world.

Reading the Bible as if it was only written to explain the sound of thunder is ridiculous.

I also think people of thousands of years ago were quite capable being skeptical about superstitious things. I am sure that many laughed at the idea that the whole land mass was being help up by turtles.

That skepticism was invented only in the last, say, three hundred years, is ridiculous.

We have Jesus giving His "sermon on the mount". He didn't spend one word on explaining how thunder was really made or what microwave was or the nature of gravity. His words were as relevant then as they are today. And they will still be relevant should a thousand more years transpire.

As evolutionists H.G. Wells said when Jesus opened His mouth His words encompassed the whole world. [Not an exact quote]. It was something like that.

They had to be appeased. Today with our knowledge of evolution, Big Bang theory etc a creating god is superfluous.

A total macro evolution theory is weakening.
The Big Bang theory argues strongly that there had to be a beginning to
space, time, matter.

Since a BIg Bang model strongly implies a beginning of the universe, some have recoiled in horror and fled into alternative theories of multiverse, many universes, or an eternally oscillating one.

Evolution as common descent is weakening in some researchers.
And Big Bang skates so close to a universe created ex nihilo as to cause some to shift nervously in their chairs and look for some way to avoid a creation out of nothing.

Micro biology has rendered Darwinian gradualism problematic on the level of cell machinery. Afterall, Darwin only thought the cell was a blob of jelly like substance. Today with more powerful microscopes we know that his "black box" so to speak is a near universe of factory like mechanisms performing thousands of tasks with exquisite precision and coordination makes it difficult for many to see this as accidentlal. Or to see how gradualism could accomplish this.

Old scientists rarely change their minds. They have to die off. Younger scientists are left with their inadaquate theories to deal with.

Again, early man ascribed all disease and illness to the gods being angry. They had to be appeased. Today with our knowledge of microscopic viruses we understand disease. God is superfluous in this regard.

As long as you know you cannot accomplish the "good" that you know completely and cannot escape the "evil" that you know you should, God will be relevant.

The Internet is quite an accomplishment.
But now lies can spread around the world in minutes.
Your privacy can be probed into with unimaginable detail.
Your lust can be stirred up just by the click of a finger (or a mistaken slip).
Your hatred for another group of people can be nourished inundating you with
suspician, conspiracy, bigotry, violence, and mob incitement.
Slander, misinformation, libel and character assasination can be spread around about
you to thousands within seconds staining your reputation for years.

With the advancement of technology also comes the further inability to control the "gathering darkness" of misunderstanding, munipulation, and opinion engineering, greed. Even "seeing is believing" is challenged in this age of Photoshop and computer graphics. You cannot anymore be so quick to believe your eyes.

You've seen science fiction movies which seem to have a real known popular news anchor speaking about the facts of the fictional story or a US president weigning in on the plot of the movie. It looks so real.

Click Bait and computer graphics has made "You can believe your own eyes" questionable. You know that.

Anyway, God doesn't go out of use. The thought is ridiculous,

Also, early man thought earthquakes and volcanoes were punishments from the gods. They had to be appeased. Today with our knowledge of seismic activity this punishing god is superfluous.
With limited scientific knowledge it is quite understandable and reasonless to believe in gods. Today we are armed with the science to explain everything.
So what is the point of God now?

I love science. I am as eager to see, for example, what the James Webb telescope will discover. I watch a lot of science videos and have books on science.

I am more impressed though with Jesus Christ.
And He and His message are even more relevant today as men attempt to replace
God with idols, albeit hightech ones.

"He who commits sin is a slave to sin." But if the Son sets us free we shall be free indeed.

@ghost-of-a-duke said

Has science made God irrelevant?

No. Well, not yet, at least. I doubt it ever will.

@pianoman1 said
I don’t want to get into a discussion of the existence of God because positions are so entrenched by both sides that it would be pointless.
No, my question is: What is the point of God now?
Thousands of years ago early man quite reasonably assumed that gods must have made the world. They had to be appeased. Today with our knowledge of evolution, Big Bang theory etc a cre ...[text shortened]... n gods. Today we are armed with the science to explain everything.
So what is the point of God now?

The question for me should be: what is the point of humans to God?