What is the point of God today?

@pianoman1 said
@mchill

God is omnipotent, he watches over us, guides us, and tests us.

How do you know? As an atheist I don’t need somebody to watch over me! I’m very happy muddling through life, making mistakes and learning from them, being kind and charitable to my fellow man. What is the point of God now?

Sir, my opinion is born of faith, not firsthand knowledge. I would also point out that we all need someone to watch over us. 🙂

@mchill said
Sir, my opinion is born of faith, not firsthand knowledge.

I kind of get why your faith might give you a feeling of immortality, even without firsthand knowledge. But it seems peculiar that your faith persuades you that people who do not share it [your faith] face "a long visit to a very unpleasant place".

Does that punishment you believe non-believers will have meted out to them [which you believe to be real despite having absolutely zero firsthand knowledge] make your faith stronger or does it ever cause you to question it?

@pianoman1 said
Interesting.
Name a few things that Science can’t explain and which, therefore in your view, have to be attributed to a god.

Where did everything come from?
How did life begin?
Should a scientist report his findings accurately?
What is gravity?
How did thinking and reasoning begin?

I do not look at the world where it is science or God. I do not believe they are at odds with one another; they answer the questions differently. God is not defined by what we don't know; if that is how you define Him, then, of course, it's God or science; God is over it all, not just the bits we don't know but also all of the bits we do know. A good example that John Lenox uses is the Ford motor engine. We can explain the engine utilizing all of its science, or we talk about Henry Ford, and both descriptions would be accurate. Ford would be the agency and the science of the process.

@pianoman1 said
No

Don’t run away, here’s the exchange between us:

You asked - “what is the point of God today”

I replied - “Hope for and belief in an afterlife.”

You countered with a “Why?”

And I asked you if you asking “why some people enjoy having hope for and faith in there being life after death?”

So what did your “why” reply to me mean then?

@kellyjay said
Where did everything come from?
How did life begin?
Should a scientist report his findings accurately?
What is gravity?
How did thinking and reasoning begin?

I do not look at the world where it is science or God. I do not believe they are at odds with one another; they answer the questions differently. God is not defined by what we don't know; if that is how you defin ...[text shortened]... d, and both descriptions would be accurate. Ford would be the agency and the science of the process.

Getting closer.

Ford even created the means of creation (the assembly line), just as God created the physical laws which made evolution (and therefore humans) possible. To create something, one often needs to create the very means of creating it in the first place.

@suzianne said
Getting closer.

Ford even created the means of creation (the assembly line), just as God created the physical laws which made evolution (and therefore humans) possible. To create something, one often needs to create the very means of creating it in the first place.

I don't worry about evolution anymore; people can believe in it or not. I don't believe in life from non-life without divine intervention or life springing up from a single form over time evolving into all of the diversity we see today, but even if true, is that due to a design or a mindless process? I think design is more likely, and if design, why would millions or billions of years be required?

@kellyjay said
I think design is more likely, and if design, why would millions or billions of years be required?

What would "millions or billions of years" matter to your God figure? Are you trying to second guess his motivations and methods?

@fmf said
What would "millions or billions of years" matter to your God figure? Are you trying to second guess his motivations and methods?

It doesn’t matter God can do whatever He wants anyway He wants. I believe it was all done exactly as written, God formed man, and then breathed life into him. The forming didn’t cause life, God did.

@kellyjay said
It doesn’t matter God can do whatever He wants anyway He wants. I believe it was all done exactly as written, God formed man, and then breathed life into him. The forming didn’t cause life, God did.

So, what would "millions or billions of years" matter to your God figure?

@kellyjay said
I don't worry about evolution anymore; people can believe in it or not.

I feel much the same.

@fmf said
So, what would "millions or billions of years" matter to your God figure?

A thousand years is as a day no different than a million to an instant.

@pianoman1 said
So what is the point of God now?

The same as it's always been.

@kellyjay said
A thousand years is as a day no different than a million to an instant.

So, once again, what would "millions or billions of years" matter to your God figure? If you posted something half-baked just say so, rather than pretend to somehow smudge it into what you meant.

@pb1022 said
Oh really.

That’s shown how life came from non-life, something came from nothing and consciousness came from mindlessness?

Yes.
If you weren’t such a bollock-faced foghorn of ignorance I would explain the concept to you.