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02 Mar 22
@pianoman1 saidSo you got nothing?
Yes.
If you weren’t such a bollock-faced foghorn of ignorance I would explain the concept to you.
No surprise there.
02 Mar 22
@pianoman1 saidAbiogenesis is an assertion; don't you think you cannot present the mechanisms surrounding its occurrence without intervention.
Yes.
If you weren’t such a bollock-faced foghorn of ignorance I would explain the concept to you.
02 Mar 22
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"Today we are armed with the science to explain everything."
A bold but false statement. Science hasn't scratched the surface. In fact it seems science raises more questions than it can answer. What's worse is that probably not 1% of the world can even begin to understand it.
But scientists keep cramming a bogus theory down our throats. Evolution is most likely the biggest line of propaganda ever invented, next to the denial of the resurrection of Jesus Christ that is.
02 Mar 22
@josephw saidPerhaps what you meant to say is that science has only scratched the surface, which would be a less bloviated thing to say.
Science hasn't scratched the surface.
The problem with religions' approaches to the aforementioned "surface" is that their "scratching" might be more connected to the human condition, to psychology, and to anthropology than about uncovering the mysteries of nature, the human consciousness and the universe.
02 Mar 22
@fmf saidStraight out of the agnostic-atheist handbook. A crutch to support the denial of the existence of the creator. Gives deniers a warm fuzzy feeling of togetherness in their self derived sense of intellectual enlightenment.
For those who need them, God figures ~ and the religions that are built around them [with instructions, threats, promises etc.] ~ serve a purpose in uniting people, supporting structures in society, developing trust and cooperation, and for those whose moral compasses might not function without a perceived divine lawgiver, Gods/religions provide them with what they think is an objective, moral north star, so to speak.
You don't know the first thing about God. And since you don't, and can't imagine that there are those who do, you must by all means construct a narrative from your own imagination that elevates your "evolved" intelligence above the throwbacks that still believe in the superstitious notion that "god done it".
Science can't even cure the common cold. And never will. Man and science aren't gods. All man has achieved with science is to weaponize everything he gets his hands on.
And here we are with the threat of a nuclear WWIII hanging over our heads. Thanks science!
Have a nice day! 😀
02 Mar 22
@josephw saidWell, josephw, I am an agnostic atheist, so the views I express are ~ unsurprisingly ~ along those lines. I have no "handbook". And my lack of belief is in no way a "crutch". As for the "existence of the creator", I am open-minded.
Straight out of the agnostic-atheist handbook. A crutch to support the denial of the existence of the creator.
02 Mar 22
@josephw saidScience has managed to identify and understand the laws of physics.
Science can't even cure the common cold.
Maybe these "laws" are going to be the closest we'll get to finding the nature of a creator entity ~ if there is one; maybe this creator entity isn't a like-a-humanoid type being in any way whatsoever.
Science may one day uncover much more about the nature and source of human consciousness and the origin of life.
But I am pretty sure there will still be plenty of room for speculation about supernatural causality.
02 Mar 22
@josephw saidMmm. Sounds like you are trying very hard to deploy a logical fallacy here or perhaps kick up a bit of rhetorical dust.
And here we are with the threat of a nuclear WWIII hanging over our heads. Thanks science!
So "science" is responsible for weaponry - is that what you are on about - so its other feats and progress exploring other frontiers are all relegated because... [in a Gish gallop voice]: here we are with the threat of aaaggh aaaggh a nuclear WW 3 hanging over our heads oh me oh my... aaaggh... thanks science... NOT!
02 Mar 22
@fmf saidWhat's more bloviating to say than "there is no God"?
Perhaps what you meant to say is that science has only scratched the surface, which would be a less bloviated thing to say.
The problem with religions' approaches to the aforementioned "surface" is that their "scratching" might be more connected to the human condition, to psychology, and to anthropology than about uncovering the mysteries of nature, the human consciousness and the universe.
You need to get the concept of "religion" out of your head. Religion is man made. And there's plenty of that, but religion isn't the way to God.
There isn't anything relative to man's experience that God doesn't know about, and understanding the "human condition" whether it be psychological, anthropological, or be it the mysteries of nature or human consciousness and the universe, God knows all about it.
"..:and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you."
Think "relationship", for without it all one has is "religion".
02 Mar 22
@fmf saidStand with your nose against the picture and tell me what you see.
Mmm. Sounds like you are trying very hard to deploy a logical fallacy here or perhaps kick up a bit of rhetorical dust.
So "science" is responsible for weaponry - is that what you are on about - so its other feats and progress exploring other frontiers are all relegated because... [in a Gish gallop voice]: here we are with the threat of aaaggh aaaggh a nuclear WW 3 hanging over our heads oh me oh my... aaaggh... thanks science... NOT!
02 Mar 22
@fmf said"One day"?
Science has managed to identify and understand the laws of physics.
Maybe these "laws" are going to be the closest we'll get to finding the nature of a creator entity ~ if there is one; maybe this creator entity isn't a like-a-humanoid type being in any way whatsoever.
Science may one day uncover much more about the nature and source of human consciousness and the origin ...[text shortened]... ut I am pretty sure there will still be plenty of room for speculation about supernatural causality.
That "day" is closer than you think, and science won't save you when it comes.
Put your faith in science, or put your faith in the one that created science. It's your choice.
Or take a chance on a "maybe".
02 Mar 22
@josephw saidMy concept of religion is just fine. Religion is man-made. Christianity is a religion. Christianity is man-made. etc. etc.
You need to get the concept of "religion" out of your head. Religion is man made. And there's plenty of that, but religion isn't the way to God.