02 Sep 13
Originally posted by whodeytrying to think of just one thing that is wrong with the world is futile. the matter is more complex than that.
I've always said, everyone has a devil and everyone has a notion of how to achieve salvation from that "evil". We all innately have a sense of right and wrong even though we may distance ourselves from those terms as being relative. Men like Marx thought the issue boiled down to economics. Men like Frued thought that it boiled down to dysfunctional childhood rearing etc.
So what is wrong with the world today in your own words?
Originally posted by whodeyLiving in society is a delicate balance between selfishness which benefits the individual and communal behaviour which benefits the society as a whole.
So what is wrong with the world today in your own words?
There are many ways to structure society and the more successful ways win out in the long term. Cultural evolution is taking place.
There seems to be an overall trend towards more communal behaviour as the benefits are enormous, and this is why the world is gradually becoming a better place.
As for major current problems in the world as a whole:
1. Wars and other conflict. I believe we should have got passed this by now and that the UN or some similar body should enforce a basic level of peace globally regardless of how much oil countries have.
2. Economic inequality. Its time we did something about this.
3. Basic human rights for all are still not being met for large numbers of people.
4. Our short term planning inherent in most political systems is causing great damage such as global warming which requires long term planning. We are also missing out on enormous economic benefits from long term planning.
Originally posted by wolfgang59Actually, because there are more people on this planet than ever, there are more of these things than ever.
Less war.
Less famine.
Less disease.
Less suffering.
More war.
More famine.
More disease.
More suffering.
Sounds a bit like a certain Four Horsemen, doesn't it?
Originally posted by Suziannesorry suzianne, but ive got to disagree with you here. it doesnt sound 'four horsemen'at. things may occur more often due to the massive increase in population. but if they ratio of them happening is getting smaller then society is improving.
Actually, because there are more people on this planet than ever, there are more of these things than ever.
More war.
More famine.
More disease.
More suffering.
Sounds a bit like a certain Four Horsemen, doesn't it?
things are better now than they have ever been. the question i always ask, but vary rarely get an answer to, is - what time in history would do you think was better to live in and why?
06 Sep 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieIn other words, if you're having a good day, then the entire population of earth is having a good day.
sorry suzianne, but ive got to disagree with you here. it doesnt sound 'four horsemen'at. things may occur more often due to the massive increase in population. but if they ratio of them happening is getting smaller then society is improving.
things are better now than they have ever been. the question i always ask, but vary rarely get an answer to, is - what time in history would do you think was better to live in and why?
Tell that to the refugees of Darfur (just to start). Tell that to the rebels in Syria who died by the hundreds after being gassed by Assad. Tell that to the Tibetans who now live under Chinese domination. The world's poor, her homeless, her dead. Tell that to them.
What you may mean to say is that things are better now than they've ever been for you.
Originally posted by SuzianneWhat you may mean to say is that things are better now than they've ever been for you.
In other words, if you're having a good day, then the entire population of earth is having a good day.
Tell that to the refugees of Darfur (just to start). Tell that to the rebels in Syria who died by the hundreds after being gassed by Assad. Tell that to the Tibetans who now live under Chinese domination. The world's poor, her homeless, her dead. Te ...[text shortened]... What you may mean to say is that things are better now than they've ever been for you.
Stellspalfie does not mean to say that, genius, since he/she is obviously intending to say something about the current social climate relative to other times which include those during which he/she never existed. My guess is stellspalfie probably meant to say just what he/she did say, which is not at all well-captured by your attempts at redescription. Maybe try re-reading it at a different time of the month?
06 Sep 13
Originally posted by LemonJelloJust yet another attempt to get the atheists here to think of someone besides themselves.
[b]What you may mean to say is that things are better now than they've ever been for you.
Stellspalfie does not mean to say that, genius, since he/she is obviously intending to say something about the current social climate relative to other times which include those during which he/she never existed. My guess is stellspalfie probably meant ...[text shortened]... d by your attempts at redescription. Maybe try re-reading it at a different time of the month?[/b]
So you're saying that he feels that things are better now than they've ever been before simply because he's here now? Or is that your opinion?
Sorry, I still don't see how your guess trumps my guess. Would you think it does because it's your guess? My guess is you'll still have this bad attitude at any time of month, so that's out.