22 Feb 22
@rajk999 saidYour logic is contrary to the truth. You spout assertions about the truth without scriptural support. You dismiss whole swaths of God's Word because if you didn't none of the garbled opinions you hold would stand biblical scrutiny.
Truth, as defined as the truth required for eternal life in the Kingdom of God is from Jesus Christ. The more bibles that get printed the further people go from the truth. It sure sounds like you are leaning to bible worship, and this talk of ark of covenant and ten commandments says you live in the past.
The New Covenant is Jesus Christ and His teachings. God has writte ...[text shortened]... eed the bible. Bible scholars need the bible, but people know the truth that leads to eternal life.
90% of the things you say are derogatory remarks leveled at people you don't know, and at Christendom in general. All because you're a control freak that can't stand being corrected by the word of God.
Why don't you go all out and declare your apostleship and say your word is equal to God's?
@divegeester saidIf you only understood how lame your hermeneutic is.
Thank you for that bite-size piece of pseudo-intellectual nothingness.
Anything to say regarding the OP or are you just going to dodge and dodge and dodge, as you did with the “is everything in the bible true thread” and as you were doing with the “eternal suffering” topic?
You're so busy being critical you can't see the truth as it is plainly laid out in scripture.
You absolutely have to cherry pick, otherwise you'd be compelled to address the context from which you isolate a verse to support your presumptions. Then you'd find out just how biblically ignorant you are, and you will when you come face to face with the one you so flippantly dismiss as not being the author of the book of Revelation.
Anyone who claims not to is basically saying that all the begats are just as important as the beatitudes. That Jesus saving the adulterer from stoning is no more inspirational than Lot's daughters getting him drunk and sleeping with him. I don't buy it.
I am not sure what you mean that you don't buy it.
Do you mean you don't believe that it happened?
The Bible is not teaching us to be like Lot and his daughters. It is tecording[/n] what happened. And that frankly and candidly. Many things are [b]recorded as having happened. The lessons in them are often what NOT to be caught in instead of going God's way.
Lot's story is very important. There are lessons there.
The woman Jesus saved from stoning is also important with lessons there as well.
So I "buy" it all (so to speak). Some stories are of the kind of lesson "THIS is what happened to this believer. Be careful that it does not happen to you too."
Or "This is what happened to this person. You should not want this to be your case also."
Or "See how this person ith God's guidance and grace turned out well. You should seek God o it turns out well with you too."
@josephw saidChristian churches worship the bible and focus on the doctrines of Paul and have sidelined Christ. Lets see. Here is what i wrote:
Your logic is contrary to the truth. You spout assertions about the truth without scriptural support. You dismiss whole swaths of God's Word because if you didn't none of the garbled opinions you hold would stand biblical scrutiny.
90% of the things you say are derogatory remarks leveled at people you don't know, and at Christendom in general. All because you're a control ...[text shortened]... f God.
Why don't you go all out and declare your apostleship and say your word is equal to God's?
Truth, as defined as the truth required for eternal life in the Kingdom of God is from Jesus Christ. Thats in the bible
The more bibles that get printed the further people go from the truth. easy to prove
It sure sounds like you are leaning to bible worship, and this talk of ark of covenant and ten commandments says you live in the past. Obvious
The New Covenant is Jesus Christ and His teachings. Thats in the bible
God has written his laws in the hearts of men. Thats in the bible
Let me know if you want some supporting references.
22 Feb 22
@divegeester saidWhat on earth have you been learning all these years that you can so easily dismiss a perfectly logical assertion?
Empty.
You're empty headed, except for your presumptuously arrived at self serving anti-biblical rants and assertions made spontaneously without thinking it through.
22 Feb 22
@divegeester saidI already told you.
Why shouldn’t I “cherry pick” the bible?
Only three pages. Try reading one.
22 Feb 22
@divegeester saidI pity you.
I was brought up being told that the Bible is the complete, inerrant, infallible Word of God. Early on in my Christian experience I just accepted the cosy and somewhat reassuring message. However upon looking into it, the claim is not expressly made nor in fact substantiated anywhere in the bible nor in any other text.
Psalms 119:160, 12:6,7.
Isaiah 40:8
Matthew 4:4, 5:18, 24:35.
Luke 24:25-27.
John 17:17.
Romans 3:3,4.
2 Timothy 3:16,17.
Revelation 22:18,19.
Don't read them. Just keep blurting your presumptuous opinions.
@moonbus saidYep! And all those apostles that were eyewitnesses of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ conspired together to keep the lie a secret even when they were tortured to death.
It’s a made up claim and Christians have accepted because it’s cosy and reassuring.
"It"?? Not just. The entire religion is a made-up claim that some people find cozy and reassuring. There was no resurrection, there is no afterdeath, no heaven and no lake of fire. The whole thing is made up. People die and stay dead. If your life is going to have any meaning and ...[text shortened]... journey.
It's not what it is. It becomes what you make it. What are you waiting for? Get going !
Brilliant moonbus.
22 Feb 22
@kellyjay saidI think divegeester and Rajk ought to get together and start a new sect of Christianity. Although it would be anything new.
The only thing honest is you reject scripture except for those parts you can make say whatever you want them to say. You don't go to scripture for the truth; you alter it to make the truth you want.
Their names can be listed with the likes of Origen, Smith and Russel.
22 Feb 22
@rajk999 saidA rationale of a spiritually nearsighted person. Your focus relative to Christianity is myopic. You're generating a line of discussion not worth discussing because it isn't germane to the topic.
Christian churches worship the bible and focus on the doctrines of Paul and have sidelined Christ. Lets see. Here is what i wrote:
Truth, as defined as the truth required for eternal life in the Kingdom of God is from Jesus Christ. Thats in the bible
The more bibles that get printed the further people go from the truth. easy to prove
It s ...[text shortened]... earts of men. Thats in the bible
Let me know if you want some supporting references.
It's all you know how to talk about. Boring, judgmental, accusatorial and otherwise beneath the dignity of rational Christian discourse. 🤣
@bigdogg saidIt's one thing to quote a verse and use it to support an assertion made about what the context from which that verse is taken, and quite another when making an assertion about something not relative to the context from which a verse is taken, and then use that verse as support.
If someone claims that they do not cherry pick the Bible, I do not believe their claim.
That's what makes cherry picking idiotic.
22 Feb 22
@moonbus saidThis very @sonhousian of you and doesn’t add anything to the commentary anymore than saying “it’s all bullshyte”.
It’s a made up claim and Christians have accepted because it’s cosy and reassuring.
"It"?? Not just. The entire religion is a made-up claim that some people find cozy and reassuring. There was no resurrection, there is no afterdeath, no heaven and no lake of fire. The whole thing is made up.