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@divegeester said'Parousia' apparently indicates that it is only the presence of Jesus that will be on Earth. He wont be actually here on Earth in person physically as the bible suggests. They are doing this because they have claimed already that Jesus returned in 1915.
Not sure what you’re on about?
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@Rajk999
He did. Not to earth as some thought but in taking the seat in heaven that now made him king of Jehovah's kingdom. His first action was in throwing Satan and all of the bad angels that followed Satan out of the heavens forever and they were now confined to the earth.
Your bible explains all of this if you can figure out the passages that explain it all. As I explained before about the scriptures that says the light would get brighter and brighter in the last days for ones who are allowed to see it.
If you need help let me know.....
@Rajk999
Again you are missing the point. It says this: "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. (Acts 1:9-11 KJV)
The point is they could no longer see him with their eyes. He was now a spirit that humans cannot see. Then they were told that at a later time period the parousia or presence of Jesus would happen. No scripture ever says that Jesus would actually ever walk again on it as a human.
@galveston75 said😂
@Rajk999
If you need help let me know.....
Who in their right mind would be asking a Jehovah’s Witness for help on Biblical questions!
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@galveston75 saidSo you’re saying that the physical body Jesus’ rose into the upper atmosphere where it disintegrated and he became a spirit which is still up in the earth’s atmosphere. It that right?
@Rajk999
Again you are missing the point. It says this: "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. (Acts 1:9-11 KJV)
The point is they could no longer see him with their eyes. He was now a spirit that humans cannot see. Then they w ...[text shortened]... sus would happen. No scripture ever says that Jesus would actually ever walk again on it as a human.
@galveston75 saidAgain?
@divegeester
So with his return, will be be a human again?
Is his human part gone then?
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@galveston75 saidYou are an idiot. Jesus was on Earth, and then he left, and the angels said he will come in like manner just as he left, then an average 5yr old can see that Jesus will return to Earth. Like I said before, fools join these cults because they can be fooled, and made to believe doctrines that are not in the bible.
@Rajk999
Where does it say that? Where is the word earth here?
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@galveston75 saidWhat utter rubbish.
@Rajk999
Again you are missing the point. It says this: "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. (Acts 1:9-11 KJV)
The point is they could no longer see him with their eyes. He was now a spirit that humans cannot see. Then they w ...[text shortened]... sus would happen. No scripture ever says that Jesus would actually ever walk again on it as a human.
Humans can see spirit beings. Angels are spirit beings, and they walk the earth, the talk to people, they fight, they do all kinds of stuff.
You really are dumb as a rock.
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@divegeester saidWho indeed, except to hear their nonsense.
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Who in their right mind would be asking a Jehovah’s Witness for help on Biblical questions!
@galveston75 saidI dont need your help. I have already read and understood the doctrine of the JWs. Remember I have been here for over 20 yrs and discussed these issues with several JWs. Precious little of your doctrine is biblical Its all fabricated twisted nonsense.
@Rajk999
He did. Not to earth as some thought but in taking the seat in heaven that now made him king of Jehovah's kingdom. His first action was in throwing Satan and all of the bad angels that followed Satan out of the heavens forever and they were now confined to the earth.
Your bible explains all of this if you can figure out the passages that explain it all. As I ...[text shortened]... nd brighter in the last days for ones who are allowed to see it.
If you need help let me know.....
On this topic alone, the following teachings are ridiculous and nonsensical:
- that Jesus returned in 1914.
- Nobody saw it except the JWs.
- Satan and his followers are cast down to Earth
- the milennium started then as well
- Armageddon has already taken place
The fact that you need to twist what the angels said to the disciples that Jesus will return the very same way he left, tells me that you do not have the ability to read and understand. You are brainwashed by your church.
Further to this the WatchTower produced hundreds of false prophecies and God said to ignore false prophets. The icing on the cake of your false church is your belief that only JWs make up the 144,000 referred to in Revelation, when it was clearly stated that these are direct descendents of Jacob's sons and grandsons.
You are delusional to the extreme.
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@divegeester saidJesus cautioned his disciples against trying to predict this event. That's good enough for me.
Any thoughts or prophesies?
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@galveston75 saidI learned that the JWs are false prophets promoting false teachings and have screwed up the lives of millions of people, who listened to their nonsense, and sold houses, stopped their kids from going off to college, and living well, all because the return of Christ is imminent.
@Rajk999
For 20 years and you've learned nothing. So sad.......