21 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhy not just engage people in the discussions you start?
[b]"You can’t win an argument with a troll"
"There are trolls online. Not the fairytale kind that sits under bridges: we’re talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they poss ...[text shortened]... Whom it May Concern on This Forum: Please Cease and Desist. Troll Behavior is Intrusive. Thanks.[/b]
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"...and file a bullying report. "
[b]"You can’t win an argument with a troll"
"There are trolls online. Not the fairytale kind that sits under bridges: we’re talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they poss ...[text shortened]... Whom it May Concern on This Forum: Please Cease and Desist. Troll Behavior is Intrusive. Thanks.[/b]
I agree with the idea that trolling, when it works for the troller, is a form of relatively anonymous online bullying.
Trollers, I believe, are characterized as being quite insincere about their apparent concerns. For example, if a troller made a post claiming that people who do not change their hair color to blue will burn in hell, they are only looking for someone to victimize. (Silly example, I know.) But we have people here whose net is being cast with all sincerity, to change beliefs on the infinitely important question of, say, believing in the Trinity or creation is essential to salvation. These are not trolls, in my book, if they are sincere, which I tend to believe they are. But some people may be affected in the same way as victims of bullies.
27 Mar 14
Originally posted by JS357Point taken. Thanks.
"...and file a bullying report. "
I agree with the idea that trolling, when it works for the troller, is a form of relatively anonymous online bullying.
Trollers, I believe, are characterized as being quite insincere about their apparent concerns. For example, if a troller made a post claiming that people who do not change their hair color to blue will b ...[text shortened]... tend to believe they are. But some people may be affected in the same way as victims of bullies.
27 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyLike the "instant gratification" you presumably got when you posted the long copy paste about "trolls" on this thread when you were asked a few on-topic questions? 🙂
Many online public forums have become preoccupied with personality cult and personal attack;
topics, issues and ideas per se have are becoming incidental. Why? Instant gratification.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by FMFWelcome Home, FMF. Since your first post in "Questions from a non-religious person" on "23 Mar '14 19:20" Thread 158433 (Page 9)... you've become quite a prolific contributor with eight pages of fifteen post plus a ninth with ten (130 Posts within four days or an average of 32.5/Day). Nick Bourbaki hasn't posted to any site public forums since "23 Mar '14 18:24"....
Like the "instant gratification" you presumably got when you posted the long copy paste about "trolls" on this thread when you were asked a few on-topic questions? 🙂
only an hour before you returned. Let's hope he's okay. "Like the "instant gratification" you presumably got when you posted the long copy paste about "trolls" on this thread when you were asked a few on-topic questions?" -FMF... Not quite; just a timely reminder from a troll related link on Crowley's RHP Profile which I posted last summer on the General Forum.
http://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/pc-security/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIt was me, FMF, posting as "Nick Bourbaki". You know this because I PM'd you to tell you at the outset, a message that you acknowledged as having read. And now you're pretending [in public] that you did not know? About ten people here know that you knew all along because I told them. And now we see you pretending there's some mystery about "FMF" and "Nick Bourbaki"?
Welcome Home, FMF. Since your first post in "Questions from a non-religious person" on "23 Mar '14 19:20" Thread 158433 (Page 9)... you've become quite a prolific contributor with eight pages of fifteen post plus a ninth with ten (130 Posts within four days or an average of 32.5/Day). Nick Bourbaki hasn't posted to any site public f ...[text shortened]... m a troll related link on Crowley's RHP Profile which I posted last summer on the General Forum.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby[bump for Grampy Bobby]
Question: What in fact do "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" actually represent?
I have never given any post a thumbs down. I occasionally give a post a thumbs up. I take a tiny bit of [until now secret] pride when I give a thumbs up to a post that expresses something that I disagree with but does so very well or for its entertainment value.
Taking a look at your posts in this forum and the General Forum, I'd say there may be quite a lot of people who actively dislike you and who often don't like your posts, and so you get quite a few thumbs down as a result of this, I reckon. A thumbs down is a signal of disapproval, right?
What do you think "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" actually represent?
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by FMFOriginally posted by FMF
It was me, FMF, posting as "Nick Bourbaki". [b]You know this because I PM'd you to tell you at the outset, a message that you acknowledged as having read. And now you're pretending [in public] that you did not know? About ten people here know that you knew all along because I told them. And now we see you pretending there's some mystery about "FMF" and "Nick Bourbaki"?[/b]
It was me, FMF, posting as "Nick Bourbaki".
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28 Mar 14
Originally posted by FMFOriginally posted by Grampy Bobby
What do you reckon is "our topic interest profile since January 1, 2014"?
Of course not. Why should the minutes and hours of the past eleven weeks of our online lives invested in this spirituality forum matter in the least to any us? It's only a snapshot of our recent history of topics which stimulated our interest and passions the most? I'll tell you why: this thread invites thoughtful analysis... rather than argumentation and trolling.
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Spirituality: Debate and general discussion of the supernatural, religion, and the life after."-Russ
Analysis 1st Pass: Two out three represented.
Any ideas why "the life after." has been excluded since January 1, 2014, from the 100 Plus Post Threads List?
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Many online public forums have become preoccupied with personality cult and personal attack;
topics, issues and ideas per se have are becoming incidental. Why? Instant gratification.
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Still pondering the topic question.... tentatively topics focused on people seem to trump topics on issues and/or ideas.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by FMFAs a general observation since July, 2007:
[b][bump for Grampy Bobby]
I have never given any post a thumbs down. I occasionally give a post a thumbs up. I take a tiny bit of [until now secret] pride when I give a thumbs up to a post that expresses something that I disagree with but does so very well or for its entertainment value.
Taking a look at your posts in this forum and the General Forum ...[text shortened]... al of disapproval, right?
What do you think "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" actually represent?[/b]
"... disapproval" as well as personal dislike of being threatened and subliminal hatred as well as cowardice in lieu of reply.
"... thumbs up": likes as with Facebook; "thumbs down": kneejerk emotional reactions sans rational thought.
28 Mar 14
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYou see "Thumbs down" as "cowardice"? That's peculiar. How so?
As a general observation since July, 2007:
"... disapproval" as well as personal dislike of being threatened and subliminal hatred as well as cowardice in lieu of reply.
"... thumbs up": likes as with Facebook; "thumbs down": kneejerk emotional reactions sans rational thought.
edit: "peculiar" in an interesting way. I have started a thread on the 'Thumbs aspect' of the debate and discussion here.
28 Mar 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYou knew I was both FMF and Nick Bourbaki because I told you in a PM. I told you what I was up to. You wished me well and said you would not reveal the 'Nick thing' to anyone online or offline. Why are you now pretending that it's something you have somehow uncovered? I PM'd you and told you it myself and I was grateful for the good wishes and encouragement you expressed [at that time].
Please help us understand how your site account nickname could possibly be "Nick Bourbaki" and simultaneously "FMF".
[b]Footnote: RHP Personal Messages are considered private/privileged communications inappropriate for public disclosure.[/b]
28 Mar 14
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You knew I was both FMF and Nick Bourbaki because I told you in a PM. I told you what I was up to. You wished me well and said you would not reveal the 'Nick thing' to anyone online or offline. Why are you now pretending that it's something you have somehow uncovered? I PM'd you and told you it myself and I was grateful for the good wishes and encouragement you expressed [at that time].
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