27 May 13
Originally posted by divegeesterFind a quote where someone has called for Christianity to be 'abolished'. Personally I would like to see it gone but I'm not for abolishing it.
Is there any difference between wanting Islam abolished and wanting Christianity abolished? The latter has been called for in this forum more times than I can remember and no one batted an eyelid.
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27 May 13
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I wrote to your comment that Adolf Hitler was "a committed Christian" a brief note that it was not that simple.
People like to recruit Hitler for a representative of various things they do not like - "Hitler a committed Christian".
And I agree that nor is it so simple that he did not exploit aspects of religious ideology which he found useful.
Do you think Dietrich Boenhoffer would have agreed that "Hitler was a committed Chrisian"? I don't think that Boenhoffer, a Christian theologian who attempted to assassinate Hitler, would agree with your characterization of Hitler as "a committed Christian."
If we go down that road shall I say that the Japanese military general who ordered the attack on Pearl Harbor was "a committed Shintoist"?
We might argue over when Ashoka (304–232 BCE) really became a Buddhist before or after his atrocities in India. Maybe I could say he was a committed Buddhist while he was having people killed to expand his empire too ?
"He embraced Buddhism after witnessing the mass deaths of the Kalinga War, which he himself had waged out of a desire for conquest. "
That was convenient.
Dietrich Boenhoffer realised the incipient dangers in using religious differences to embroil humanity in hatred.
And there is an incipient danger, I think, also in labeling someone "a committed" this or that because you expoit the atrocities to make a guilt by association point.
Sometimes it is done intentionally, other times through insightless acceptance of unreasoning prejudice applied beyond the radical few to the normally peaceful many.Boenhoffer as you know died because he refused to go along with such. It seems so did your Founder.
My only point here is that calling Hitler "a committed Christian" is rather a wild call. Your skepticism about what it is to be "a committed Christian" is being opportunistic in a unfair way.
27 May 13
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27 May 13
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Originally posted by Proper KnobGo back and look at what sunhouse has said about freedom from religion. He wants all religion to be abolished. He may have not used that word, but his meaning for them to end or to be done away with them is the same.
Find a quote where someone has called for Christianity to be 'abolished'. Personally I would like to see it gone but I'm not for abolishing it.
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Originally posted by RJHindsI don't care if Paulists and Muslims start WW3, I just don't want to be around either one of them. I just want a country where religious asssholes aren't trying to take over.
Go back and look at what sunhouse has said about freedom from religion. He wants all religion to be abolished. He may have not used that word, but his meaning for them to end or to be done away with them is the same.
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I never said abolish religion. I did say I would like to see an anti religion virus spread throughout the world where all of a sudden people would go 'we believed in that crap? Maybe now we can be friends with former Muslims'. That would be something to behold.
28 May 13
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Originally posted by Proper KnobI believe sonhouse was referring to all organized religions if I remember correctly.
I did a Google search for all sonhouse and 667joe posts which contain the words 'abolish' and 'Christianity', nothing came up.
edit: I see he has responded himself, oops.
29 May 13
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Originally posted by sonhouseHow about this, which is better Christianity or islam?
I don't care if Paulists and Muslims start WW3, I just don't want to be around either one of them. I just want a country where religious asssholes aren't trying to take over.
I never said abolish religion. I did say I would like to see an anti religion virus spread throughout the world where all of a sudden people would go 'we believed in that crap? Maybe now we can be friends with former Muslims'. That would be something to behold.
Iran Says The End of the World Has Arrived
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=wzTRXc1MAZ0
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29 May 13
Originally posted by RJHindsYou ask which is better than Christianity or Islam.
How about this, which is better than Christianity or islam?
Iran Says The End of the World Has Arrived
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=wzTRXc1MAZ0
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Answer: Buddhism is better than Christianity or Islam for me.
Just why would you ask what is better than Christianity or Islam?? 🙄🙄
29 May 13
Originally posted by caissad4I worded that wrong. But I meant to ask sunhouse which was better between Christianity and Islam. I don't give a rats ass about Buddhism.
You ask which is better than Christianity or Islam.
Answer: Buddhism is better than Christianity or Islam for me.
Just why would you ask what is better than Christianity or Islam?? 🙄🙄
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