Who is an antichrist

Originally posted by KellyJay
The teachings they had was what they were speaking against, not the
fact they were not believers. It was a specific teaching too.
Kelly

I presume you mean those 'who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh'.

This would seem to me to apply to atheists, Muslims and many other theists. Would you welcome them into your house or not?

Originally posted by Rank outsider
I presume you mean those 'who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh'.

This would seem to me to apply to atheists, Muslims and many other theists. Would you welcome them into your house or not?

It was a specific teaching of a specific group, been awhile since I've looked
into it. Atheist, Muslims, and many other groups don't acknowledge Jesus
and water Him down like these guys did.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
It was a specific teaching of a specific group, been awhile since I've looked
into it. Atheist, Muslims, and many other groups don't acknowledge Jesus
and water Him down like these guys did.

Would you refuse to welcome a Muslim into your house?

Originally posted by FMF
Would you refuse to welcome a Muslim into your house?

I used to share an apartment with a Muslim from Jordan and another
Christian, we were in an apartment building that the Mormon church rented
out part of it for its elders that came to our town. There was a JW Kingdom
hall two houses down from us.

We had many all-night discussions that were always polite. The only time
that were hard feelings was when two JW came over, one was Arabic. This
upset my Muslim friend who said after they left he wanted to kill him
because he had betrayed his faith, he was polite while they were there. I
never heard any cross words from him or any of his friends either who
came over at any other time.

We had long conversations about God, he even went to church with me
once. I always felt he was honest and straight forward with me, and when
he had some friends come over who were not trying to be insulting but I
guess thought since we were Americans we liked parting and sleeping
around. I asked my friend to tell him what we were really like and I got
apologies.

So my personal experience with Muslims has been good, now I work with
a lot of them too. And I would have them over, and if I did, I'd make sure
I honor their beliefs on food. As I have pointed out, everyone who does not
do anything in faith is sinning, I'd never make someone sin against their
own life if I can help it, even if it is someone of another faith.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I used to share an apartment with a Muslim from Jordan and another
Christian, we were in an apartment building that the Mormon church rented
out part of it for its elders that came to our town. There was a JW Kingdom
hall two houses down from us.

We had many all-night discussions that were always polite. The only time
that were hard feelings was when ...[text shortened]... one sin against their
own life if I can help it, even if it is someone of another faith.
Kelly

So what is your OP about when it talks about not welcoming people into your house?

Originally posted by FMF
So what is your OP about when it talks about not welcoming people into your house?

I guess you don't grasp the OP either.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I guess you don't grasp the OP either.
Kelly

Why don't you share your grasp of the OP then? After all it is your OP. You quoted this: "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them." And you have ruled out this applying to Muslims and you have ruled out it applying to an ex-Christian like me. In complying with the scripture you yourself quoted, whom would you not "take them into your house or welcome"? What is your grasp of the everyday application of this prohibition?

Originally posted by FMF
[b]2 John 1:
7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does ...[text shortened]... ying and are against them and are unwelcome in the houses of the people still in the group, yes?

You need to ask Rajk999 about this. He claims to be the expert on this point, since he brought it up.

Originally posted by Rank outsider
I presume you mean those 'who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh'.

This would seem to me to apply to atheists, Muslims and many other theists. Would you welcome them into your house or not?

As I said, ask Rajk999 about it. However, I know what house I would welcome a Muslim Hamas leader to. Reveal Hidden Content

Originally posted by FMF
Why don't you share your grasp of the OP then? After all it is your OP. You quoted this: "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them." And you have ruled out this applying to Muslims and you have ruled out it applying to an ex-Christian like me. In complying with the scripture you yourself quoted, wh ...[text shortened]... nto your house or welcome"? What is your grasp of the everyday application of this prohibition?

I don't call you an ex Christian, you know that.
Kelly

Originally posted by RJHinds
Enjoy what honor you have now, for there will not be any honor for you in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.

Sustained eternally by magi... Ahem...miracles 😞

Originally posted by KellyJay
I don't call you an ex Christian, you know that.
Kelly

Your OP quoted this: "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them."

In complying with this, tell us what kinds of believers/non-believers/former believers would you not "take them into your house or welcome"?

Originally posted by RJHinds
You need to ask Rajk999 about this. He claims to be the expert on this point, since he brought it up.

No, KellyJay brought it up. KellyJay started this thread. The quote in question was provided by KellyJay.

Originally posted by FMF
No, KellyJay brought it up. KellyJay started this thread. The quote in question was provided by KellyJay.

KellyJay quoted these verses to identify who is an antichrist. It was Rajk999 that first made specific reference to the quoted scripture that your question is about. But for my part, I agree with John and would not welcome an antichrist into my home. I might talk to him outside on the porch, if I did not perceive him to be a threat to my family.

Originally posted by RJHinds
KellyJay quoted these verses to identify who is an antichrist. It was Rajk999 that first made specific reference to the quoted scripture that your question is about. But for my part, I agree with John and would not welcome an antichrist into my home. I might talk to him outside on the porch, if I did not perceive him to be a threat to my family.

Be that is may, my question about KellyJay's OP is directed at KellyJay. You and Rajk999 are, of course, free to post what you want.

You say "I agree with John and would not welcome an antichrist into my home". For the purposes of your decision about a welcome on your porch/welcome inside your home, who would and wouldn't be on your list of "antichrists"?