16 Apr 05
Originally posted by MaustrauserTHE BIBLE proves it self. THE WORD OF GOD is for all to see, or for all to reject. Man has known from the sixth day of creation that GOD exsists. But decides on the seveth day that we didnot have to listen to HIM. From that time to this time the debate continues.
Blindfaith101 - you read what you want to read. Not what I wrote.
I said that I was copying my reply to Peachy and not that you were telling me to worship Allah.
I was stating that you are using the Bible to prove the Bible. It just doesn't work that way.
16 Apr 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101ok.. excuse my ignorance, i understand the Anti-Christ concept, but can you please explain to me what do you mean by 1000 years of Christ rule on Earth?
We still have to go through the seven years of the Anti-Christ. If the time of the Anti-Christ started today we would have seven years before the 1000 years of CHRISTS rule on earth,
am trying to learn, and would appreciate your help.
16 Apr 05
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Originally posted by blindfaith101could you be kind an explain it to me? i am not a Chrisitian and don't own a Bible..
Revelations chapter 20
The closest thing i have is the Book of Mormon (which i am not so certain that its the word of God) - just a note; i was given that Book by a friend and out of repspect I kept it.
16 Apr 05
Originally posted by PeachyThe thousand years refers to time of the first resurrection of those martyred for their "proclaiming the word of God."
could you be kind an explain it to me? i am not a Chrisitian and don't own a Bible..
The closest thing i have is the Book of Mormon (which i am not so certain that its the word of God) - just a note; i was given that Book by a friend and out of repspect I kept it.
During this time, Christ rules supreme over the Earth for 1000 years unimpeded(sp?) by Satan. After the 1000 years, Satan is released back into the world where he will go out and "deceive the nations from every corner of the earth." He will take those who he deceived and surround God's people but fire from heaven will engulf them(Satan and the deceived) and they will be sent to the lake of fire for eternity.
After this is the final judgment of all mankind.
That's as much as i have for you. Most things in Revelation do not make sense to me yet, but i hope i have enlightend you a bit.
bible.crosswalk.com
here is a site where you can access an online bible and read the passages from Revelation 20. (btw, the quotes in this post are from the New Living Translation)
mike
16 Apr 05
Originally posted by mikebec20thank you for that.. makes a lot of sense..
The thousand years refers to time of the first resurrection of those martyred for their "proclaiming the word of God."
During this time, Christ rules supreme over the Earth for 1000 years unimpeded(sp?) by Satan. After the 1000 years, Satan is released back into the world where he will go out and "deceive the nations from every corner of the earth. ...[text shortened]... rom Revelation 20. (btw, the quotes in this post are from the New Living Translation)
mike
the Quran shares this too and i can relate to what you wrote clearly. thanks again.
16 Apr 05
Peachy, here's a bit of information from a different Christian perspective....
The book of Revelation is reguarded in some sectors of Bible scholarship as not a description of the endtimes but rather as a coded story to the persecuted Christians of the early days as a source of strength and hope. The message is that Christ/God is supreme and that whatever happens you will be safe in his love and your enemies wil ultimately pay the price for hating you.
The actual key to the code is lost.......
Oh, and when the church fathers got together, to decide which books actually made it into the Bible.....Revelation just barely got in......
16 Apr 05
Originally posted by Aynatits amazing though how much information and stories are shared. i could gather most of the stories and verses and link them up with verses and stories from the Quran. i think its a good job that after all these years the scriptures still hold true. thats God's will for you.
Peachy, here's a bit of information from a different Christian perspective....
The book of Revelation is reguarded in some sectors of Bible scholarship as not a description of the endtimes but rather as a coded story to the persecuted Christians of the early days as a source of strength and hope. The message is that Christ/God is supreme and that whateve ...[text shortened]... r, to decide which books actually made it into the Bible.....Revelation just barely got in......
i am reading bits and pieces and will start a new thread soon on the mutual topics mentioned both in the Bible and the Quran. I will not dare to mention the key differences as that will cause chaos in this forum..
but thank you, i will keep an eye on these threads, i do feel they are very useful and educational.
18 Apr 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101Wow. That's really cocky, just blowing off someone else's god as "false."
i am in no way telling anyone to worship Allah. Allah is a false god. An non-believer can grasp JESUS CHRIST. What HE said and taught. You can grasp onto JESUS CHRIST death on the cross. You can grasp on the fact that HE rose from the dead. If you chose not to accept the life that CHRIST led, you are welcome to. If you chose not to accept the words tha ...[text shortened]... ated, and rose from the dead so that all who chose to believe in him, can live with HIM forever.
Keep on that road and you'll be a grade A a$$hole.