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@secondson said
Wouldn't knowing that each "fix" is certain more precious than the uncertainty of not knowing when or where the next will come from?
It would save money and facilitate the addiction. But it would not make a fix more precious.

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A caterpillar becomes a butterfly. That it will become a butterfly does not entail that it must not embrace its every moment of being a caterpillar.

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@fmf said
I think the Catholic priest character in the comedy cited in the OP was speaking to people like you:

"Why believe in something awful when you can believe in something wonderful?"
Death is awful. Eternal life is wonderful.

Every Catholic priest I've met has been full of warm fuzzies and little substance with regards to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

It seems you've been hoodwinked by a caricature of a priest, which oddly enough resembles the real thing.

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@fmf said
Shortsighted?
Is there some difficulty you're having understanding shortsighted? Synonym ~ myopic. Antonym ~ farsighted.

Actually, it's the British term for nearsighted, which is the ability to see things that are near as opposed to far.

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@secondson said
Death is awful. Eternal life is wonderful.
This is not evidence substantiating the "wonderful" thing you believe in

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@secondson said
Death is awful. Eternal life is wonderful.
Heroin addict: A limited supply of money for smack is awful. An unlimited supply of free smack is wonderful. I believe I will have a wonderful, unlimited supply of free supply of smack one day.

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@fmf said
Feeling that death is abhorrent and/or fearing death - and generally struggling to come to terms with death - is perhaps one of the psychological building blocks of almost all religions.
That is simply your attempt at being condescending.

"Fear of death", "struggling to come to terms with", "psychological building blocks" are not debating points. You're merely projecting a bias formed in a mind bent on promoting its own sense of superiority against any idea it disagrees with and can't produce sound reasoning against.

I've seen this pattern developed by you before. You're getting agitated it seems because you can't convince me that death is something to celebrate by lauding the idea that since we're all going to die anyway we may as well relish the few precious moments we have because we're as good as dead anyway.

It's a bogus humanistic ideological brain spasm.

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@fmf said
I get that you are asserting that it makes life more joyful and meaningful but you're not really saying why?
What? Maybe you should go back and read what I said.

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@secondson said
Is there some difficulty you're having understanding shortsighted? Synonym ~ myopic. Antonym ~ farsighted.
So all you were doing was asserting that your belief in everlasting life is right and my belief is wrong and indicating that this is what you think by calling me "shortsighted" and suggesting your belief is "farsighted"?

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@fmf said
How will it be "reflected"?
Are you changing the topic of discussion?

Use your imagination. One day I will hear Jesus say to me, "well done thou good and faithful servant".

What we do in this life will be reflected in the next.

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@secondson said
"Fear of death", "struggling to come to terms with", "psychological building blocks" are not debating points. You're merely projecting a bias formed in a mind bent on promoting its own sense of superiority against any idea it disagrees with and can't produce sound reasoning against.
I think that all religions that promote the notion of everlasting life do so in an effort to make sense of death and offer a way for believers to cope with it.

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@secondson said
What we do in this life will be reflected in the next.
How so?

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@secondson said
What? Maybe you should go back and read what I said.
You are asserting that belief in everlasting life - as you are living it now - makes it more joyful and meaningful, but you're not really saying why.

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@secondson said
I've seen this pattern developed by you before. You're getting agitated it seems because you can't convince me that death is something to celebrate by lauding the idea that since we're all going to die anyway we may as well relish the few precious moments we have because we're as good as dead anyway.
I haven't said that "death is something to celebrate". I have suggested that life is precious and should be relished. On either point, I am not "agitated".

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@fmf said
It's not a "preference". It's a realization. It's acceptance. It's being at peace with it.
You're at peace with death?

I wonder if you'll still be at peace with it when you take your last breath.

There's always heavy sedation.

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