14 Oct 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelOK. You gave earlier a specific answer to our vishvahetu, and I noticed that answer of yours. I evaluated your answer and I concluded that you created out of your own intelligence the form of the birth root of compassion. I was delighted and I asked you, what was the exact agent that eased you to bring up this object?
I did what now? Sorry, I couldn't follow that one (in relation to my post)
Finally, recognizing the fact that we are sharing the same suchness, I bowed to you😵
14 Oct 10
Originally posted by wolfgang59the way you ask this questions lets one to believe you are not a fan of free will. or you think that theists aren't.
Why do you think your god(s) allowed you to be a believer and why did he/they choose to not pursuade others? Why are you special?
there are only a few handful morons out there who believe god chooses the believer. that if god wishes, he will make you unwilling to believe (and therefore supposedly condemn you to damnation). the vast majority believe faith is an act of free will. sure some willingness to accept it is needed but that too is a conscious individual act. to say otherwise is to deny free will and therefore to dismiss accountability for ones actions. then the point of afterlife and punishment for the wicked disolves, god damns and saves people at random and we are all fuked.
do you want us all to be fuked?
14 Oct 10
Originally posted by black beetleThank you dear beetle, sometimes the light flickers...
OK. You gave earlier a specific answer to our vishvahetu, and I noticed that answer of yours. I evaluated your answer and I concluded that you created out of your own intelligence the form of the birth root of compassion. I was delighted and I asked you, what was the exact agent that eased you to bring up this object?
Finally, recognizing the fact that we are sharing the same suchness, I bowed to you😵
14 Oct 10
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Originally posted by black beetlebeetle can i ask you just a quick question unrelated (not an attempt to hijack the thread, i simply dont want to go away back and bump an older one), you stated earlier that you felt that chess was empty, is it, in your opinion, just a process of trying to impose our dreams on others, many thanks in advance - robbie
I also have a gift for our vishvahetu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b5czixF1dg&feature=related
😵
14 Oct 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHey rabbie!
beetle can i ask you just a quick question unrelated (not an attempt to hijack the thread, i simply dont want to go away back and bump an older one), you stated earlier that you felt that chess was empty, is it, in your opinion, just a process of trying to impose our dreams on others, many thanks in advance - robbie
No, not to impose our dreams on others but -by means of practicing our meditation on objects effectively and thus applying our strategy and our specific tactics that they derive from our strategy and/ or from an opportunity that our opponent offered us out of his wrong evaluation- to impose our own reality on our opponents😵
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Originally posted by black beetlevery well put dear Beetle, but what is our own reality but a collection of meditations, aspirations and awakening dreams?
Hey rabbie!
No, not to impose our dreams on others but -by means of practicing our meditation on objects effectively and thus applying our strategy and our specific tactics that they derive from our strategy and/ or from an opportunity that our opponent offered us out of his wrong evaluation- to impose our own reality on our opponents😵
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thread hijacked only temporarily, well give it back very soon 🙂
14 Oct 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMethinks one's interpretation of reality depends upon the kind of the structure of his cognizance in relation to the consciousnesses that one is working on😵
very well put dear Beetle, but what is our own reality but a collection of meditations, aspirations and awakening dreams?
thread hijacked only temporarily, well give it back very soon 🙂
Originally posted by wolfgang59Ok, ok I was palming your question off, and it is good one.
well ... yes.
same question
but as everyone knows themselves it is probably easier to say why one has been chosen rather than why others have not(?)
The Bible (pertinent to my belief) talks about 'called' AND 'chosen' saying many are called but FEW are chosen. My personal standpoint on this is that the MANY are ALLof us, i.e. being given a choice based on a calling; however some are "chosen" they (in some way) have no choice, they are picked by god for a specific purpose, for example John the Baptist.
Your question is wide reaching and fundamental to the related issues of God's sovereignty and predestination. Interesting, indeed.
14 Oct 10
Originally posted by josephwWell this is the crux of the problem:
[b]"Seriously"
Are you ready for this?
God couldn't be any more "revealed" if He walked up to you and slapped you on the face.
Don't try to tell me that when you look up into the night sky and stretch your mind as far as it will go, that what you see wasn't created.
And not only that. We have the testimony of God's Word.
Or you can choose to be blind.[/b]
Its not obvious to me.
My question is why do I need that "slap in the face" and you do not?
I see the Universe and am amazed by it but cannot deduce a Creator.
I read books but cannot believe everything I read.
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