23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999It is not okay to sin!
You are not a very perceptive person. A man says:
- all Christian sins are forgiven
- all Christian sinners lose is rewards and not eternal life in the Kingdom of God
- Jesus paid the debt for all Christians sins
- Jesus is righteous, therefore Christians are righteous
Plus he can sin and he cannot lose his eternal life.
What does that mean to you?
To me it means they are saying that it is ok to sin.
Let me be very clear, it is not okay to sin!
I'm not suggesting it is okay to sin!
I have never said, and reject the notion that we cannot lose our salvation, there are to
many warnings about walking properly.
Do you believe Jesus in these scriptures?
ESV John 3:
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
ESV Matthew 10:32-34
32 So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, 33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
Do you believe Paul was directed by God when he wrote this:
Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayThere are some of your Christian buddies around here who promote that doctrine. Maybe you should be correcting them instead of trying to argue with me.
It is not okay to sin!
Let me be very clear, it is not okay to sin!
I'm not suggesting it is okay to sin!
I have never said, and reject the notion that we cannot lose our salvation, there are to
many warnings about walking properly.
Do you believe Jesus in these scriptures?
ESV John 3:
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does ...[text shortened]... irit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
Originally posted by @rajk999No answer why it is you claim to follow Jesus and ignore not only the things God shares
There are some of your Christian buddies around here who promote that doctrine. Maybe you should be correcting them instead of trying to argue with me.
with us in scripture, but even the very words of Jesus?
23 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayTell me the words of Jesus that I have ignored.
No answer why it is you claim to follow Jesus and ignore not only the things God shares
with us in scripture, but even the very words of Jesus?
I have dealt with the Matt 7 case of Lord Lord.
The man did no good works.
You have misinterpreted it by saying he did good works.
So you are wrong
The one about Jesus saying people are condemned who do not believe is a case of you ignoring the subsequent explanation with says that those whose works are evil are condemned. Again you are not understanding the teachings of Christ.
Originally posted by @rajk999Well you could start with the top of this pages thread.
Tell me the words of Jesus that I have ignored.
I have dealt with the Matt 7 case of Lord Lord.
The man did no good works.
You have misinterpreted it by saying he did good works.
So you are wrong
The one about Jesus saying people are condemned who do not believe is a case of you ignoring the subsequent explanation with says that those whose works are evil are condemned. Again you are not understanding the teachings of Christ.