Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemSome people are turned off because they want to be turned off.
....if it bit you on the arse?
I am beginning to think not.
Most of the posters left here have no fvcking clue what Spirituality implies.
That is why my interest in this forum had declined.
There is no wisdom left here.
There is no insight as to the human condition.
I come in here, and see a bunch of Christians bickering over silly doctrine they has zero effect on human beings and their search for meaning in LifE.
Spirituality involves your human spirit.
You have something called a human spirit.
it is not your mind, or your emotion, or your will. it is another neglected component of your total humanity.
Spirituality involves the awakening, healing, coming to life of the function of a very deep part of your total make up - your human spirit.
Spirituality also involves the eternal Spirit of the uncreated and eternal Person of God.
The two matters must come together - your human spirit and the Spirit which is the eternal and uncreated Divine Person.
Spirituality also deals with the hindrances to that connection - your spirit with the Holy Spirit.
Spirituality deals with what has occurred, if anything, to deal with the comatose state of your human spirit. And it deals with WHY there is a separation between your human spirit and the Divine Person of the Eternal Holy Spirit Who is God.
Spirituality has to do with problems of human life which HAVE solutions not with problems to which there are NO solutions.
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @secondsonJust as a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without a spiritual life.
Without Jesus man is spiritually dead. What man identifies as spiritual without Jesus is merely a religious enactment of ritual designed to illicit an emotional response mimicking a spiritual experience.
One must be born again as a result of an encounter with the one and only true and living God. Jesus is the only way.
As for "Native Americans" and "millions of white men", I nearly laughed at you assertions.
Buddha
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @secondsonBefore the birth of Jesus Christ, was man spiritually dead?
Without Jesus man is spiritually dead. What man identifies as spiritual without Jesus is merely a religious enactment of ritual designed to illicit an emotional response mimicking a spiritual experience.
One must be born again as a result of an encounter with the one and only true and living God. Jesus is the only way.
As for "Native Americans" and "millions of white men", I nearly laughed at you assertions.
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @secondsonWhats 'born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ' ?
Man is spiritually dead to God until he is born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
There is no other way.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelGood question but not addressed to me so I’ll keep out until invited.
Whats 'born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ' ?
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke"I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
Just as a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without a spiritual life.
Buddha
Jesus Christ
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelStart with substitutionary atonement.
Whats 'born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ' ?
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @secondsonI got it ... so Abraham Issac and Jacob were spiritually dead according to you
Man is spiritually dead to God until he is born again according to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
There is no other way.
Originally posted by @secondsonThats church language. If you use what Is that in the bible you might sound more credible. You have a reference?
Start with substitutionary atonement.
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @secondsonRecognize the Lord's Light (Spirit) within all, and do not consider social class or status; there are no classes or castes in the world hereafter.
"I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."
Jesus Christ
Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 349. (Sikhism)
Originally posted by @secondsonYep .. getting abusive because you cannot answer the question means you have a personality disorder brought on by your false doctrines.
You really are a spiritual moron aren't you?
I suggest that because of your church doctrine, you are astray on a number of key bible concepts:
- What is born again about?
- What is the difference between born of water and born of the spirit
- When does the above take place
- What is the purpose of Christ's death and resurrection
- Who gets eternal life in the Kingdom of God
Thats just the tip of the iceberg. Your entire church doctrine is nonsense.