08 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3I think that as humans, we can't comprehend what goes on outside of our little bubble of information. We know what is here, sometimes we even know why, but we do not know exactly what the catalyst is. So by the logic that humans can't comprehend the idea of something so immense, what is there to say that anyone has it right? Alternatively, you could go the more solipsistic route and say that if it is true to you, than it is true. Therefore, all religions and lack thereof are equally true/untrue.
I disagree.
A 'creator' is there.
Someone is right.
Maybe.
Originally posted by JakeChessDo you think humans came from nothing?
I think that as humans, we can't comprehend what goes on outside of our little bubble of information. We know what is here, sometimes we even know why, but we do not know exactly what the catalyst is. So by the logic that humans can't comprehend the idea of something so immense, what is there to say that anyone has it right? Alternatively, you could go the ...[text shortened]... true to you, than it is true. Therefore, all religions and lack thereof are equally true/untrue.
And are headed nowhere?
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3Did I say that? No. I'm saying that I don't know and I don't think it's something that can be truly known and understood. If you disagree, that's fine. I just think one can live a happy life without the shackles of religious dogma holding them back.
Do you think humans came from nothing?
And are headed nowhere?
Originally posted by chaney3If by "nowhere" you mean we live our lives and then die, then that's where millions of years of evidence points, and nothing but the hopes, fears and assertions of religious people as "proof" of anything else. If you believe there is a "somewhere" - some sort of destination or continuation - then that's a case you need to make.
And are [humans] headed nowhere?
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by FMFAgreed. Positive claims need evidence.
If by "nowhere" you mean we live our lives and then die, that's where the evidence points. If you believe there is a "somewhere" - some sort of destination or continuation - then that's a case you need to make.
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by JakeChessYou don't know.
Did I say that? No. I'm saying that I don't know and I don't think it's something that can be truly known and understood. If you disagree, that's fine. I just think one can live a happy life without the shackles of religious dogma holding them back.
Key point.
Nobody knows.
So.....who is right?
Rich people?
Poor people?
God has made himself unknown.
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3You seem to be missing the point. The point is that I don't know, you don't know, nobody knows. So by the logic that no one can know one way or the other, everyone is equally right and equally wrong. This is because it is impossible to prove or disprove any religion or lack thereof.
You don't know.
Key point.
Nobody knows.
So.....who is right?
Rich people?
Poor people?
God has made himself unknown.
Originally posted by JakeChessThe dilemma is, humans were created.
You seem to be missing the point. The point is that I don't know, you don't know, nobody knows. So by the logic that no one can know one way or the other, everyone is equally right and equally wrong. This is because it is impossible to prove or disprove any religion or lack thereof.
A novice can view a documentary regarding human life and see the wonder of the human body.
How a rational person tries to dismiss this is mind boggling.
We were created.
Once again, humans were created.
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3Ignorant in what way? I know plenty about the human body and the brain. Deflecting by calling me "ignorant" doesn't alter the fact that "humans were created" is simply an assertion and an opinion.
Then you are ignorant of biology.
The human body is a marvel.
The brain is a wonder of this world.
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by FMFOne does not need to be a Christian to see the impossibity that a human body can "just be".
Ignorant in what way? I know plenty about the human body and the brain. Deflecting by calling me "ignorant" doesn't alter the fact that "humans were created" is simply an assertion and an opinion.
Honesty will show that we were created.
'By who' is up for debate.