Imagine the Boxer that Tyson would have been in the same era as Ali when he wouldn't have had King and all the rest of the extraneous stuff which eventually led to his downfall.
Imagine the Boxer Ali would have been today without all religious and political stuff which has created a kind of mystical aura around him as if he didn't lose fights he should of won because of his blind arrogance.
I do think that both Boxers fully fit and absolutely concentrated on their sport in a ring against each other would be the greatest fight of all time. Ali with his superior technique and intelligence would give Tyson problems like no other boxer.
But the raw natural power and speed of a Tyson in full destruction mode without a thought or care about anything but destroying what is in front of him would destroy Ali.
Ali though for the rematch I'm sure would have come up with sme strategy that would have turned the fight in his favor.
Originally posted by kcamsTyson "in full destruction mode without a thought or care about anything" would get his ears boxed off by Ali. He was a one trick pony and unless Ali offered him his chin Tyson would be lucky to lay a glove on him before being boxed senseless.
[b]But the raw natural power and speed of a Tyson in full destruction mode without a thought or care about anything but destroying what is in front of him would destroy Ali. b]
As Ali himself said "I'm too fast"
first of all tyson was as fast if not faster than ali and hit a lot herder. then who wants to see ali dance around tyson all ring we want a fight not just a long show. i think tyson vs. joe fraser would be a 10 times better fight. you know someone is going to get knoked out and knoked out fast.
Originally posted by kmac27How eloquent - that's me well and truly told 😀
first of all tyson was as fast if not faster than ali and hit a lot herder. then who wants to see ali dance around tyson all ring we want a fight not just a long show. i think tyson vs. joe fraser would be a 10 times better fight. you know someone is going to get knoked out and knoked out fast.
There have been plenty of big punchers but they weren't all world champions were they? You have to be able to box to reach the top. Ali had it all, he could box with speed, footwork and had the ring craft and tactical nous that few boxers had shown before or since. Tyson had a big punch and a fear factor.
Tyson didn't need much else in the era he fought, he had no competition (see my previous post). Ali fought and beat great champions Liston, Frazier and Foreman and many others like Spinks, Norton and Shavers who were all way better than the bums Tyson fought. In the same ring as Foreman he'd have been clubbed to the canas by the bigger man, better boxer and just as heavy a puncher. Against Ali he'd be lucky to lay a decent glove on him.
If you want to know what would have happened in a fight between Ali and Tyson then check out Tyson v Lewis. The unfazed, confident, bigger man and better boxer made a fool out of "The baddest man on the planet"
Originally posted by JohnLennonForeveryou obviously didn't see the genius in his fights. i guess they seemed boring to you because THEY WERE BORING TO HIM. nobody could hang with him. he just toyed with everyone cause it didn't matter. he would beat them anyway.
Tyson in his prime would kill Ali! If you look at Ali's fights, they are boring! He just stands there and sissy hits his opponent!
Originally posted by StocktonI've seen ALL his fights. What I saw in most of them was a scared bum in one corner and a confident big puncher in the other.
you obviously didn't see the genius in his fights. i guess they seemed boring to you because THEY WERE BORING TO HIM. nobody could hang with him. he just toyed with everyone cause it didn't matter. he would beat them anyway.
Originally posted by richfeetAli would clean his clock. I can't say for certain whether one has the edge physically over the other, but mentally Ali has him beaten a 1000 times over. Yep, there is no doubt about it, your greatest weapon is your mind and Ali had one of the greatest minds in the history of boxing.
ALI Ali would DESTROY Tyson....... Ali could box, Tyson was just a slugger and a boxer will beat a slugger every time.