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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
You have your eras all wrong as far as who was the team in the game you allude to. The one time Manning beat Brady head to head was a indeed AFC CG, 06. HOwever, Moss was never involved, either with Pats or any other team in a winning championship game and was still with Raiders in 06. The only trip Moss has had to SB was the loss to the Giants. Welker ...[text shortened]... on bonehead Pats plays than on their own prowess. Pats thought they could win on mystique alone!

If Manning had the Bellichik defenses of the mid 2000s, he'd have 8 Lombardi trophies up on the shelf.


Okay, slight exaggeration. Maybe only 5.

Originally posted by sh76
If Manning had the Bellichik defenses of the mid 2000s, he'd have 8 Lombardi trophies up on the shelf.


Okay, slight exaggeration. Maybe only 5.

Maybe. He did not have a D that was that bad either. Simply got outplayed by a then better QB. As for your assertion re number of trophies, pure speculation. If Monatana had had a running game he would have won every year. If Michelangelo had learned music he might have outshone all the other music greats! Pure speculation. If Favre had not gone up against the Broncos he might have won three in a row! If the Cowboys had had Jim Brown instead of emmitt Smith they would have ben unstoppable.

Originally posted by quackquack
Montana never had support. Really?
Roger Craig was great as a runner and a receiver. Jerry Rice was the best receiver who ever lived. Ronnie Lott is a Hall of Famer. There was no salary cap. You kept your players forever and the 49ers were stacked. They had a back up QB who is a hall of famer.

thanks, i was trying to remember the running back and receiver montana had. I thought it might have been rice, but i couldn't remember if he played for montana or elway. I'm 19, and obviously wasn't around to know the exact names other than that montana had lots of help.

Originally posted by sh76
If Manning had the Bellichik defenses of the mid 2000s, he'd have 8 Lombardi trophies up on the shelf.


Okay, slight exaggeration. Maybe only 5.

if i was a member, i'd rec this. because you're exactly right.

Originally posted by scacchipazzo
Maybe. He did not have a D that was that bad either. Simply got outplayed by a then better QB. As for your assertion re number of trophies, pure speculation. If Monatana had had a running game he would have won every year. If Michelangelo had learned music he might have outshone all the other music greats! Pure speculation. If Favre had not gone up agai ...[text shortened]... a row! If the Cowboys had had Jim Brown instead of emmitt Smith they would have ben unstoppable.

he did not have a d that was that bad either? what colts team have you been watching this past decade? This year everyone rags on the colts defense, and its the best one peyton's ever worked with. and that's without bob sanders.

Originally posted by scacchipazzo
Maybe. He did not have a D that was that bad either. Simply got outplayed by a then better QB. As for your assertion re number of trophies, pure speculation. If Monatana had had a running game he would have won every year. If Michelangelo had learned music he might have outshone all the other music greats! Pure speculation. If Favre had not gone up agai ...[text shortened]... a row! If the Cowboys had had Jim Brown instead of emmitt Smith they would have ben unstoppable.

you're saying you'd take jim brown over the best RB ever?

Originally posted by Big Orange Country
you're saying you'd take jim brown over the best RB ever?

Jim Brown was the best RB to ever play the game, not Emmit Smith. Emmit ran for more total yards, but just look at the yard per carry avg of Brown. That is the one record that will never be broken in football other then perhaps Favre's number of starts.

Originally posted by scacchipazzo
Jim Brown was the best RB to ever play the game, not Emmit Smith. Emmit ran for more total yards, but just look at the yard per carry avg of Brown. That is the one record that will never be broken in football other then perhaps Favre's number of starts.

if im making a team for a single exhibition game, id take brown. if im building a franchise id take smith. their had very different running styles. emmitt's was more condusive to a longer career. in their own way, they are sort of tied for best.

Originally posted by Big Orange Country
if im making a team for a single exhibition game, id take brown. if im building a franchise id take smith. their had very different running styles. emmitt's was more condusive to a longer career. in their own way, they are sort of tied for best.

How little you know about Jim Brown. He retired in his prime, not because of injury. If you are unwilling to build a franchise around probably the greatest football player who ever played the game then perhaps you need to revise your football knowledge. My dream team would feature Brown at RB, Montana at QB, Jerry Rice at WR, Jumbo Elliot types at OL, John Riggins as backup RB, Kellen Winslow at TE, BobHayes at WR; my backup at QB would be Johnny Unitas or Steve Young. Manning would not make the team. He's very good, but no Steve Young and certainly no Montana. My D would be the entire 70's Steeler D with Bob Lilly and Strahan as backups and Jack Tatum and Deion Sanders as backup CB's. Charlie Waters and Cliff Harris as safeties.

Originally posted by scacchipazzo
How little you know about Jim Brown. He retired in his prime, not because of injury. If you are unwilling to build a franchise around probably the greatest football player who ever played the game then perhaps you need to revise your football knowledge. My dream team would feature Brown at RB, Montana at QB, Jerry Rice at WR, Jumbo Elliot types at OL, ...[text shortened]... and Jack Tatum and Deion Sanders as backup CB's. Charlie Waters and Cliff Harris as safeties.

ok.

Originally posted by scacchipazzo
How little you know about Jim Brown. He retired in his prime, not because of injury. If you are unwilling to build a franchise around probably the greatest football player who ever played the game then perhaps you need to revise your football knowledge. My dream team would feature Brown at RB, Montana at QB, Jerry Rice at WR, Jumbo Elliot types at OL, ...[text shortened]... and Jack Tatum and Deion Sanders as backup CB's. Charlie Waters and Cliff Harris as safeties.

Interesting.

I became a fan in about 1985. So, of the players that I've seen, my all star team is:

QB- Manning

RB- Barry Sanders
RB- Marshall Faulk (for the second RB, I want a guy who's a good receiver too)

TE- Antonio Gates

WR- Jerry Rice
WR- Steve Largent

OL- Antony Munoz, Willie Roaf and guys like that

CB- Deion Sanders and Darelle Revis (hey, cut me a break here; I'm entitled to one homer pick)

Safeties: Troy Polamalu and Ronnie Lott

NT- Joe Klecko (okay, two)

DT- Reggie White, Bruce Smith and maybe Freeny (Strahan was overrated)

LB- Junior Seau, Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis and I dunno, maybe Sean Merriman?

Punter- Ray Guy

Kicker- Adam Vinateirri

Special Teams- Steve Tasker

Originally posted by sh76
Interesting.

I became a fan in about 1985. So, of the players that I've seen, my all star team is:

QB- Manning

RB- Barry Sanders
RB- Marshall Faulk (for the second RB, I want a guy who's a good receiver too)

TE- Antonio Gates

WR- Jerry Rice
WR- Steve Largent

OL- Antony Munoz, Willie Roaf and guys like that

CB- Deion Sanders and Darelle R Sean Merriman?

Punter- Ray Guy

Kicker- Adam Vinateirri

Special Teams- Steve Tasker

I think you should add Darrell Green from Washington to that list of CB's. He ran everyone down..
Dont forget the "Minister of Defense" for the Bears....Middle LB Mike Singletary. Those eyes shook you up even before he hit you.

Originally posted by Big Orange Country
ok.

Jim Brown was the original Ironman of the NFL...long before Favre.

Originally posted by Scotty70
I think you should add Darrell Green from Washington to that list of CB's. He ran everyone down..
Dont forget the "Minister of Defense" for the Bears....Middle LB Mike Singletary. Those eyes shook you up even before he hit you.

Green's a good one.

I thought about Singletary. Maybe over Seau; but not over Lewis.

Originally posted by sh76
Green's a good one.

I thought about Singletary. Maybe over Seau; but not over Lewis.

I think Singletary was a little more adept at reading offenses then Lewis is. That's the only reason I would give him the nod.

as for the RB, one of your selections has to be a bruiser that can hit the middle...might I suggest the late Walter Payton?