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Originally posted by whodey
How can you say Tressel is not the best coach in the Big Ten? After all, he has dominated as I said before. I suppose the closest to him is Joe Pa, but he has won the Big Ten more often that Joe Pa since he came to the Big Ten. How can you determine who is better by any other factor than wins and losses?
You can't...but give Rodriguez some time. He will have Michigan back to being the powerhouse in the big ten.

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Originally posted by whodey
How can you say Tressel is not the best coach in the Big Ten? After all, he has dominated as I said before. I suppose the closest to him is Joe Pa, but he has won the Big Ten more often that Joe Pa since he came to the Big Ten. How can you determine who is better by any other factor than wins and losses?
Real simple! Tressel has had the creme de la creme player-wise for the last ten seasons. MState's and Iowa's do more with less. I agree with the other poster regarding Rich Rdz. He has coached really well and should get Michigan back to a powerhouse. Tressel is stale and predictable. Too conservative. OSU has great traditions and is an awesome school. Notice how the other B10 schools don't seem to have the player controversies Tressel has had. The unmanly look does not help!

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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
Real simple! Tressel has had the creme de la creme player-wise for the last ten seasons. MState's and Iowa's do more with less. I agree with the other poster regarding Rich Rdz. He has coached really well and should get Michigan back to a powerhouse. Tressel is stale and predictable. Too conservative. OSU has great traditions and is an awesome school. N ...[text shortened]... don't seem to have the player controversies Tressel has had. The unmanly look does not help!
So Tressel gets the talent but is horrible at coaching? Who cares the formula so long as the winning continues. I say, "Just win baby!!".

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Originally posted by whodey
So Tressel gets the talent but is horrible at coaching? Who cares the formula so long as the winning continues. I say, "Just win baby!!".
With the talent pool he recruits he should be way more competitive indeed! That's emblematic of less than top coaching.

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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
With the talent pool he recruits he should be way more competitive indeed! That's emblematic of less than top coaching.
Are you suggesting that Tressel has access to a larger talent pool than say Penn State or Meat Chicken?

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Originally posted by whodey
Are you suggesting that Tressel has access to a larger talent pool than say Penn State or Meat Chicken?
State of Ohio is a perenially endless ppool of great talent. Ohioans are traditionally inclined to go there and Tressel mines the big ten talent effectively as well. There lies his real talent. This does not seem to extend to the field of play as evidenced by the NCAA chamionships embarrassments.

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Bring back the Woody and Bo show!!!!

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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
State of Ohio is a perenially endless ppool of great talent. Ohioans are traditionally inclined to go there and Tressel mines the big ten talent effectively as well. There lies his real talent. This does not seem to extend to the field of play as evidenced by the NCAA chamionships embarrassments.
The funny thing is, is that OSU never went anywhere until Tressel walked onto the scene since the days of Woody Hays. So are you suggesting it only coincidence?

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Originally posted by whodey
The funny thing is, is that OSU never went anywhere until Tressel walked onto the scene since the days of Woody Hays. So are you suggesting it only coincidence?
He's no Woody Hayes. He's a good recruiter. The moms like the wimpy, knit vest look. They send their kids there without batting an eye. Come game time he calls ultra conservative games. He's no Bo either. He probably sells insurance really well or funeral plots. If you like him, fine. Your team and prerogative. I never cared for the man. He reminds too much of Leach at TxTech. Dart Vader comes to mind with the latter, yappy little lap dog with the former. 3rd and ten? No problem. Let's pass for three! Compare to D'Antonio at MSU. There's some big hairy cojones. Even in a painful loss he makes you think of a bandolero, not a funeral greeter. Rich Rdz is the same. He acts like this is a game of men not Chihuahuas. I don't deny the man has some talents, but think about it, transpose him over to the SEC and he'd be eaten alive the same way he was in those two back to back embarrassments champ games. Can you see Saban, or LSU's coach wimping out? Houston Nutt? Miss State's? Maybe he needs to grow whiskers!

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Originally posted by scacchipazzo
[b]He's no Woody Hayes. He's a good recruiter. The moms like the wimpy, knit vest look. They send their kids there without batting an eye. Come game time he calls ultra conservative games.
So now you have an issue with someone being conservative? Do what works, not what is "pretty".

I would say that John Cooper may have been a better recruiter. In fact, when Tressel won the NCG he was using Coopers boys. In fact, I think that more players went to the NFL under Cooper than under Tressel, yet it is only Tressel who has won a NCG and owned Meat Chicken and dominated the Big Ten.

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Originally posted by whodey
So now you have an issue with someone being conservative? Do what works, not what is "pretty".

I would say that John Cooper may have been a better recruiter. In fact, when Tressel won the NCG he was using Coopers boys. In fact, I think that more players went to the NFL under Cooper than under Tressel, yet it is only Tressel who has won a NCG and owned Meat Chicken and dominated the Big Ten.
The problem with Ohio State supporters...they can't spell. It is "M I C H I G A N"....not "meatchicken".

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Originally posted by whodey
So now you have an issue with someone being conservative? Do what works, not what is "pretty".

I would say that John Cooper may have been a better recruiter. In fact, when Tressel won the NCG he was using Coopers boys. In fact, I think that more players went to the NFL under Cooper than under Tressel, yet it is only Tressel who has won a NCG and owned Meat Chicken and dominated the Big Ten.
I prefer less conervative play calling, within reason, and a slightly better attitude. No use in arguing about this. Tressel is what he is. D'Antonio is my kind of coach. No suave, debonnaire crap on the sidelines! Reminds me of Jimmy Johnson!

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Originally posted by shortcircuit
The problem with Ohio State supporters...they can't spell. It is "M I C H I G A N"....not "meatchicken".
Sure, I am perfectly able to spell that team up north. I just can't bring myself to do it. 😛

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Originally posted by whodey
Sure, I am perfectly able to spell that team up north. I just can't bring myself to do it. 😛
That's right...you are from Doh hi yo. 😛😉

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UNC 20 VTech 17! What a season for upsets! I love Beamer but he was outcoached!

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