12 Apr 08
Originally posted by no1marauderLet's face it...you would argue with a stonewall. The only problem is your arguements are quite often wrong. It is your opinion and these are ours. The sports writers will decide whose eyes they see it through. Oh, and before you tell others to grow up, you should try it yourself.
Can't argue with that "logic".
12 Apr 08
Originally posted by 425lsuAnd who beat the Hornets tonight? KOBE'S LAKERS. Not to mention Kobe almost had a triple double with 29 pts, 10 reb, and 8 assists. Paul had a good game with 15 pts, 6 reb, and an impressive 17 assists. But I still think Kobe is the MVP.
KG isnt gonna win it. Its either going to be Kobe Bryant or Chris Paul
12 Apr 08
Originally posted by JohnLennonForevertoo bad CP3 was on the bench cause of foul trouble, and they still almost blew a 30 point lead, not very MVP qualities to me.
And who beat the Hornets tonight? KOBE'S LAKERS. Not to mention Kobe almost had a triple double with 29 pts, 10 reb, and 8 assists. Paul had a good game with 15 pts, 6 reb, and an impressive 17 assists. But I still think Kobe is the MVP.
12 Apr 08
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Originally posted by no1marauderYea of course Pierce, Rondo, Perkins, And Tony Allen were all on the Celtics last year, but Pierce is the only returning starter and both him and Tony Allen were both injured for half the season last year. I am not denying that KG hasn't had an important impact on the team, I just think it has been more than a one man show in Boston. If you are not going to give credit to any of Danny Ainge's key additions, atleast give some credit to what Pierce and Ray Ray have done for the team.
You're ridiculous. Pierce, Rondo, Perkins AND Tony Allen were all on last year's terrible team. The Celtics weren't going to make the playoffs last year when Pierce was playing.
KG has turned around the team and made better players of all of them. Eddie House and James Posey are good role players, but neither would be considered anywhere nea That is why he, not Kobe (on a team the Celts thrashed twice) or Paul, deserves the MVP.
Anyways, it looks more and more like Kobe is going to win the MVP award this year.
12 Apr 08
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Originally posted by MoneyManMikeI'll be very surprised if he finishes above 3rd and won't be terribly surprised if he finishes lower.
Yea of course Pierce, Rondo, Perkins, And Tony Allen were all on the Celtics last year, but Pierce is the only returning starter and both him and Tony Allen were both injured for half the season last year. I am not denying that KG hasn't had an important impact on the team, I just think it has been more than a one man show in Boston. If you are not go he team.
Anyways, it looks more and more like Kobe is going to win the MVP award this year.
Your first paragraph is again ridiculous. I never claimed that Boston is a "one man show"; I claimed that the arrival of KG and his work habits and leadership turned the team around and made better players of all of them (well he couldn't do much for Brian Scalabrine). Paul Pierce has said the exact same thing repeatedly. The most revealing stat about the Celts this year is that they lead the league in team defense; an almost total reversal from last year. And guess who's odds on favorite to win the NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award?
EDIT: Here's an interesting opinion piece giving several salient facts (like the Lakers are only 11-10 without Bynum or Gasol) and concluding that Kobe doesn't deserve MVP. http://www.google.com/search?q=Kobe+and+MVP+voting&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE
13 Apr 08
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Originally posted by no1marauderThis is why i think Chris Paul will win, every play runs through Paul unlike Kobe and New Orleans would be lost without him. Also if your figuring in turn around seasons NO isn't a bad example either. Also Boston might not have the record they do if they were in the west.
I'll be very surprised if he finishes above 3rd and won't be terribly surprised if he finishes lower.
Your first paragraph is again ridiculous. I never claimed that Boston is a "one man show"; I claimed that the arrival of KG and his work habits and leadership turned the team around and made better players of all of them (well he couldn't do m d+MVP+voting&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by RandyFlaggYes, the West is way too tough for the Celts. That's why they have a 25-5 record against Western teams.
This is why i think Chris Paul will win, every play runs through Paul unlike Kobe and New Orleans would be lost without him. Also if your figuring in turn around seasons NO isn't a bad example either. Also Boston might not have the record they do if they were in the west.
I think it's likely Paul will win.
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by no1marauderNot when you lose back to back games this late in the season especially if you are the number one team in the west and give that up to another MVP candidates team and when one of those losses is to that team. Come on, it's one thing to lose to the Lakers, because they are good. But the KINGS, come on now, that's just uncalled for. Now my Lakers are number one team and hopefully they'll stay there.
Yes, the West is way too tough for the Celts. That's why they have a 25-5 record against Western teams.
I think it's likely Paul will win.
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by JohnLennonForeverIt's not as bad as when the Lakers lost to the Grizzlies and Bobcats back to back AT HOME. NOt too long ago.
Not when you lose back to back games this late in the season especially if you are the number one team in the west and give that up to another MVP candidates team and when one of those losses is to that team. Come on, it's one thing to lose to the Lakers, because they are good. But the KINGS, come on now, that's just uncalled for. Now my Lakers are number one team and hopefully they'll stay there.
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by JohnLennonForeverYeah, no good team could possibly lose to the Kings. http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/gameTrax?gameId=2008030913
Not when you lose back to back games this late in the season especially if you are the number one team in the west and give that up to another MVP candidates team and when one of those losses is to that team. Come on, it's one thing to lose to the Lakers, because they are good. But the KINGS, come on now, that's just uncalled for. Now my Lakers are number one team and hopefully they'll stay there.
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by no1marauderAt least it was earlier in the season. You cannot lose to a team like the Kings so LATE in the season, ESPECIALLY if you are the number one team in your conference and that will lose you the number one spot. It's not the fact that they lost to the Kings, it's the fact that they lost so late in the season to a crappy team.
Yeah, no good team could possibly lose to the Kings. http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/gameTrax?gameId=2008030913
13 Apr 08
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Originally posted by JohnLennonForeverPathetic. It was a MONTH ago. And the Lakers were at home! Plus 4 days ago the Lakers lost to the TrailBlazers, who have only 2 more wins than the Kings. You're quite the "homer", aren't you?
At least it was earlier in the season. You cannot lose to a team like the Kings so LATE in the season, ESPECIALLY if you are the number one team in your conference and that will lose you the number one spot. It's not the fact that they lost to the Kings, it's the fact that they lost so late in the season to a crappy team.
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by no1marauderOh well, I'll give you that. I don't really care that the Lakers lose to crappy teams, cause everyone does and you can't win every game. But at leat the Lakers are getting it done now.
Pathetic. It was a MONTH ago. And the Lakers were at home! Plus 4 days ago the Lakers lost to the TrailBlazers, who have only 2 more wins than the Kings. You're quite the "homer", aren't you?
13 Apr 08
Originally posted by JohnLennonForeverBig game against the Spurs today. Win that and you'll in all probability wrap up the no#1 seed (still have to beat the "pathetic" [does a few games under .500 make you a "crappy" team] Kings). Lose and you could be as far back as 5th.
Oh well, I'll give you that. I don't really care that the Lakers lose to crappy teams, cause everyone does and you can't win every game. But at leat the Lakers are getting it done now.