13 Feb 08
Ireland were unlucky not to do better but i think France deserved it in the end evn though they went to sleep for 20 mins! scotland are terrible this year and i don't care who objects, they were outclassed by Wales through the whole game and if you say that Wales beat England then blame a man named Wilkinson!!!!!!
14 Feb 08
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Originally posted by jacko13I'm not Jesus Jonny's greatest fan but it was hardly all his fault that England lost to Wales. There were a number of factors
if you say that Wales beat England then blame a man named Wilkinson!!!!!!
* Despite a good start, England scored just 3 points after the 23min mark
* Wales made mistakes galore in the 1st half, it made England look a lot better than they are
* England didn't punish Wales heavily enough for those mistakes
* England had a number of injuries during the game making an unstable team and a 2nd rower had to play at No.8
* Wales woke up and started playing in the 2nd half and applying pressure
* England started making mistakes under pressure
* Wales took their chances
* Wales were fitter than England and this really started to show in the last 10mins
14 Feb 08
Originally posted by CrowleyYes, but then they are just as likely to not turn up at all as play a blinder! I like those kind of French teams - at least they play some decent rugby unlike in the Laporte days. The championship needs their flair. Apart from Wales the others are horrible to watch.
I've only seen highlights, but the French are looking pretty good?
England - 10 man game, try to play some rugby, fail, back to the 10 man rugby
Ireland - 10 man game, kick to the corners, catch and drive, yawn
Italy - Forward oriented game plan, horribly disorganised
Scotland - Total gash, spoil, spoil, hope for penalties
14 Feb 08
Originally posted by Angry BoyEngland were terrible in the second half both games, after being quite good in the first. But the 10 man rugby comment is completely wrong.
England - 10 man game, try to play some rugby, fail, back to the 10 man rugby
It was more - try to play some rugby - succeed to some extent but not finish off enough moves - start suffering due to injuries and a lack of fitness - panic - fail to play any sort of rugby whatsoever.
14 Feb 08
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Originally posted by mtthwSo given that you also said that they tried to play some rugby and failed - which is what I said - then how is that "completely wrong"?
England were terrible in the second half both games, after being quite good in the first. But the 10 man rugby comment is completely wrong.
It was more - try to play some rugby - succeed to some extent but not finish off enough moves - start suffering due to injuries and a lack of fitness - panic - fail to play any sort of rugby whatsoever.
For a more detailed analysis of what I thought went wrong in the Wales game you only have to read one post above.
14 Feb 08
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Originally posted by Angry BoyThe bit where you said they'd reverted to 10 man rugby.
So given that you also said that they tried to play some rugby and failed - which is what I said - then how is that "completely wrong"?
If they had, they wouldn't have been so rubbish.
OK, so "completely" was probably too strong 🙂
14 Feb 08
Originally posted by Angry BoyOk ireland have a ten man game. They're just trying to copy Munster though. It works for Munster but O'sullivan can't get it organised enough for Ireland. They have two of the best centres in the world though (when they're playing well) and they have the ability to do well through the three quarters. geordan Murphy is a great runner if he's playing well but we still need shaggy back
Yes, but then they are just as likely to not turn up at all as play a blinder! I like those kind of French teams - at least they play some decent rugby unlike in the Laporte days. The championship needs their flair. Apart from Wales the others are horrible to watch.
England - 10 man game, try to play some rugby, fail, back to the 10 man rugby
Ireland - ...[text shortened]... iented game plan, horribly disorganised
Scotland - Total gash, spoil, spoil, hope for penalties
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by jacko13... and for that reason alone EOS should be sacked. (With one or two exceptions) He has the Munster 1 to 10 and the Leinster centres and outside backs. Both sides have proven to be up there with the best in Europe and yet he can't get them to play together.
Ok ireland have a ten man game. They're just trying to copy Munster though. It works for Munster but O'sullivan can't get it organised enough for Ireland. They have two of the best centres in the world though (when they're playing well) and they have the ability to do well through the three quarters. geordan Murphy is a great runner if he's playing well but we still need shaggy back
If you thought Lord Bald did a bad job of "coaching" the Lions in NZ, wait and see what Eddie does if he gets the job for the tour to SA. Picking Hayes, Leamy, Reddan and a few other Irish favourites would be the least of our worries!
16 Feb 08
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Originally posted by Angry BoyI think that they should get him out and then bring in the current munster coach (for Ireland not the lions). He'll get the forwards working and maybe get a few of the leinster forwards (heaslip, jackman, jennings etc.) in on it too. Then if they get a decent backs coach they could really go somewhere. i think the IRFU don't want to do that cuz they want Munster to continue their own success too.
... and for that reason alone EOS should be sacked. (With one or two exceptions) He has the Munster 1 to 10 and the Leinster centres and outside backs. Both sides have proven to be up there with the best in Europe and yet he can't get them to play together.
If you thought Lord Bald did a bad job of "coaching" the Lions in NZ, wait and see what Eddie does i ...[text shortened]... king Hayes, Leamy, Reddan and a few other Irish favourites would be the least of our worries![/b]
24 Feb 08
Originally posted by jacko13a great win for ENGLAND...to go there and get a result was quality..back in it for sure now..should win the next two games...
What do you think about this weekend's action
...Wales won..but did they look that convincing? i am not sure, but a win is a win and they are unbeaten...
25 Feb 08
Originally posted by spurs73Ireland will beat England if they play like they played against Scotland. England's game worked well against France because France are predictable. Plan A Run Plan B Run Plan C Run. It won't wok against Ireland cause they have a more dynamic game and they have a good connection between forwards and backs
a great win for ENGLAND...to go there and get a result was quality..back in it for sure now..should win the next two games...
...Wales won..but did they look that convincing? i am not sure, but a win is a win and they are unbeaten...