Rugby World Cup

Originally posted by Tirau Dan
PS Crowley haha we'll never let you forget the easy road and will always rub your nose in it.. that's the spirit of our camaraderie put a slab of mutton on the briar fill the glasses and allow us the only thing we have left to throw at you ;-) You have the Cup just poke your tongue out and smile

What do they call the WC playoff for 7th and 8th spots?







The Bledisloe Cup.

Originally posted by buffalobill
What do they call the WC playoff for 7th and 8th spots?







The Bledisloe Cup.

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as we say (perpetually) .... Next Time!

Originally posted by Ragnorak
So which of these are you discarding as being a try scoring chance?
1) The disallowed try
2) Tait being stopped 2 yards short of the try line having beaten half the Bok team.

Thanks in advance.

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I count that as one 'opportunity' - you surely don't count every pick and drive by a team 2 meters from the line as a scoring opportunity, do you?
That was the only passage of play in the game when England looked like scoring.

Originally posted by boarman
Maybe you should go look up sarcasm ,then you at least would know how to spell it.

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Originally posted by buffalobill
What do they call the WC playoff for 7th and 8th spots?







The Bledisloe Cup.

Whats the difference between the All Blacks, the Wallabies and a tea bag?
A tea bag stays in the cup longer!

Originally posted by lordhighgus
Whats the difference between the All Blacks, the Wallabies and a tea bag?
A tea bag stays in the cup longer!

And the difference between the all blacks and a messy cafe sauce bottle?
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The sauce has bottle!


ps Even our nzru are looking at keeping Henry and co..
Robbie Deans is now high on the list to be the next Aussie Coach.
Change at the top is necessary.

Originally posted by Tirau Dan
And the difference between the all blacks and a messy cafe sauce bottle?
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The sauce has bottle!


ps Even our nzru are looking at keeping Henry and co..
Robbie Deans is now high on the list to be the next Aussie Coach.
Change at the top is necessary.

Our Aussie rugby board are looking at bringing back Alan Jones

Originally posted by boarman
Our Aussie rugby board are looking at bringing back Alan Jones

If I were them I'd grab Deans.. our lots are mad not to give him the job.. My Fav Warren Gatland is up for the Wales Job.. madness if he goes... they can have Henry.
Heck I'd rather have Jones than Henry again.

Changing the subject..

What the latest inside info from SA re the the new racial quota system. Is this really the end of Springbok Rugby?? I don't like the sound of this positive racism.. it's racism full stop. (We hear they may have to have up to ten black and coloured players in the rugby team and the name Springbok is to be removed... is this so???

Changing the subject..

(We hear they may have to have up to ten black and coloured players in the rugby team and the name Springbok is to be removed... is this so???[/b]

Why is this such a troubling factor to you? It seems like you are under the impression that coloured / black south african rugby players can't play as good as white SA rugby players!?...clearly you are not emotionally connected to the SA rugby history in relation to coloureds and blacks. If u get updated wiyh the SAR history since the 1800's, u will understand why these changes are neccesary.
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Originally posted by Roley
Why is this such a troubling factor to you? It seems like you are under the impression that coloured / black south african rugby players can't play as good as white SA rugby players!?...clearly you are not emotionally connected to the SA rugby history in relation to coloureds and blacks. If u get updated wiyh the SAR history since the 1800's, u will understand why these changes are neccesary.
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I was asking for a SA perspective whilst trying not to be judgemental. I don't like the sound of any sports team being forced racially pick players.

The only reporting in this country has been from white administrators telling all that the blacks and coloureds don't play rugby and aren't good enough to reach international level.

My troubling factor is that I love the game and hate racism and are only being fed info from one side.. thus my invitation to elucidate.

For info I was a cop here in the front line of the 1981 bok tour upholding the right to play against the wishes of ppl against the racist tour and to this day have never been given sufficient evidence to properly form an opinion as to whether there are thousands of quality black and coloured layers in SA being kept out of Int Rugby... Tell it here and let us know the facts as you see them please so I and others may be better informed.

Originally posted by Tirau Dan
I was asking for a SA perspective whilst trying not to be judgemental. I don't like the sound of any sports team being forced racially pick players.

The only reporting in this country has been from white administrators telling all that the blacks and coloureds don't play rugby and aren't good enough to reach international level.

My troubling facto ...[text shortened]... here and let us know the facts as you see them please so I and others may be better informed.

Well, if I have to select the best 30 players in the country for a touring side now, the only colored players who will make my squad would be:
Guthro Steenkamp, prop
JP Pietersen, wing
Bryan Habana, wing
Akona Ndugane, wing
And Kabamba Floors, flanker (you may have seen him in sevens and the super 14)

At the moment we have 2 very good colored wingers, with another one or two on the fringes of selection. Under the forwards I believe there are only the 2 I listed and not any others even close to their white counterparts.
There are a few other colored players who might make my side if some of the white guys got injured, but in reality there is at the moment not 10 colored guys I would select for a squad...


This whole quota thing is all political wrangling for favourable rating with the public. I don't know if the sport and rugby administrators will ever be able to fully implement these plans, because there is much pressure from different places, including:
- The coloured players don't like it much being called 'quotas'.
- The rugby public predominantly want to see a winning side - not a 'representative' side.
- Opposition parties are somewhat against it, because it is coming from a slightly racist place. Most opposition politicians stay out of this though, for the obvious fear of being labeled racists themselves...
- The player unions are worried about losing talented players to overseas countries because players believe they can't make teams here.


I think these politicians pushing a quota system are crazy.
People are inspired by winners - surely players who keep on losing, but are 'representative' of a country's demographics can't inspire young kids?

Originally posted by Crowley
Well, if I have to select the best 30 players in the country for a touring side now, the only colored players who will make my squad would be:
Guthro Steenkamp, prop
JP Pietersen, wing
Bryan Habana, wing
Akona Ndugane, wing
And Kabamba Floors, flanker (you may have seen him in sevens and the super 14)

At the moment we have 2 very good colored wingers ...[text shortened]... osing, but are 'representative' of a country's demographics can't inspire young kids?

I know when John Hart took the ABs to SA in '95 they went out to the playing fields in the poorer areas and all the youngsters only wanted soccer balls they couldn't give away the hundreds of rugby balls they took.

Here there are many Island and Maori ethnic players in the National side and they are selected solely on merit. NZ Maori do have an Ethnic side which tours, but that is an ethnic celebration and they don't play as a country. There are also tons of Ethnic Ex Pat sides too but they don't reach the same level.

Pardon my ignorance but would/could there ever be a representative Boer/Afrikan or Zulu rugby side or would there be too much sensitivity?