Man, either you get the doors or you don't. No in between. It isn't about the lyrics. It's about the voice, the atmosphere, and the music. The later albumbs like LA Woman are pure gold.
You may not like indiviual songs, (or anyting from Soft Parade for that matter) but come on, not saying you don't like the doors is like saying you don't like Led Zeppelin.
Either you get it or you don't. Simple.
Originally posted by Seitsequit judging with your modern eyes. View them in the context they were created.... A post war, 1950's structured hardline culture.
You have a point, Bad.
I guess the only think that "bothers" me is the bunch of
wee lads who worship and enthrone as gods people
like Jim Morrison, Cobain, etc.
I mean, I can drink to some of their songs, they're decent,
but... geniuses? Ppppfffff, prrrrlease...
It'd be like trying to judge casablanca or My fair lady through modern eyes. You simply can't take today's values and judge yesterdays' performances by them.
Quit making that classic mistake.
Originally posted by uzlessI don't like Led Zeppelin. I do like the Doors. Hmm.
Man, either you get the doors or you don't. No in between. It isn't about the lyrics. It's about the voice, the atmosphere, and the music. The later albumbs like LA Woman are pure gold.
You may not like indiviual songs, (or anyting from Soft Parade for that matter) but come on, not saying you don't like the doors is like saying you don't like Led Zeppelin.
Either you get it or you don't. Simple.
Originally posted by uzlessSo we should be comparing them to late Beatles, Rolling Stones and Grateful Dead, right?
quit judging with your modern eyes. View them in the context they were created.... A post war, 1950's structured hardline culture.
It'd be like trying to judge casablanca or My fair lady through modern eyes. You simply can't take today's values and judge yesterdays' performances by them.
Quit making that classic mistake.
Ok, someone didn't understand the meaning of " cultural phenomenon",
it seems. They were a cutural phenomenon, with a meaning in their
sociopolitical context.
What sounds dubious is the tag of genius or true lyrical achievement.
And Led Zeppelin, art-wise, is waaaay above The Doors. And on top of them
all is, please remember, Pink Floyd. Stop insulting true genius, for crying
out loud 😛
Originally posted by SeitseAm I getting this straight: you put Pink above Led, art-wise? Curious.
Ok, someone didn't understand the meaning of " cultural phenomenon",
it seems. They were a cutural phenomenon, with a meaning in their
sociopolitical context.
What sounds dubious is the tag of genius or true lyrical achievement.
And Led Zeppelin, art-wise, is waaaay above The Doors. And on top of them
all is, please remember, Pink Floyd. Stop insulting true genius, for crying
out loud 😛
I would certainly put Pink above others sonic-wise, but I don't know that the overall work really compares.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHMatter of taste.
Am I getting this straight: you put Pink above Led, art-wise? Curious.
I would certainly put Pink above others sonic-wise, but I don't know that the overall work really compares.
Led is like 'heavy metal falling from the sky', rough and
delightful in its own purity. Pink is detailed construction
towards a beautifully polished diamond.
I am no musician, so it would be good to ask a pro how
complex are both works when compared.
it was the unity of the doors that made them so awesome, they went out, into the desert, with the peyote cactus as a friend and became one! When the music over is just awesome, as is peace frog, and soul kitchen, favourite album, weird scenes inside the goldmine
Originally posted by Seitsenot a act. i agree some of jims lyrics sounded a bit incoherent and randomly obscure. however they were always, original, and real.
I must say that there are very specific moments in some of
The Doors' songs in which I feel that the world will come down
because I've witnessed pure beauty, e.g. the first change of
syllable at the start of The End, to name one.
However, the more I read Jim Morrison's lyrics, the more I... ok,
let's be honest: unless you have a secret gay attraction ...[text shortened]... ic rings
in my ear as no more than a novelty act, to be honest.
What are your thoughts?
lyrics can at times be difficult to interpret if they become largely personalized or masked by a unnecessarily descriptive vocabulary. but i dont think jim was guilty of that.
Originally posted by SeitseEven though I was born 5 years after he died, his music still sings to me.
I must say that there are very specific moments in some of
The Doors' songs in which I feel that the world will come down
because I've witnessed pure beauty, e.g. the first change of
syllable at the start of The End, to name one.
However, the more I read Jim Morrison's lyrics, the more I... ok,
let's be honest: unless you have a secret gay attraction ...[text shortened]... ic rings
in my ear as no more than a novelty act, to be honest.
What are your thoughts?
I wish I could have seen them live. He's probably the one rock star I could have been a groupie for.