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Originally posted by generalissimo
well, at least it sounded good, and it was real music and not some fabricated crap with artificial sound.
Fabricated crap with artificial sound?

Frankly, you don't sound like much of a musician to me. How can a sound be artificial and what music isn't fabricated by definition of the word?

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I do not often hear a Rock song these days with a good melody. It seems that the talent for writing a good melody is either not in vogue or the ability has been somewhat lost.

I am a musician. And I have played lead guitar in combos, so I know something about it.

I don't hear well thought out melodies since the 80s. What do I hear? Okay, I hear first of all an overly exaggerated Bass Drum beat. That is the commercial staple, a thundering bass beat.

Around that thundering and overly exaggerated thumping I here a few modal notes that are repeated. The color of this stationary series of intervals is changed by the surrounding shifts in block harmony.

That is rather simplistic series of a few notes and some rotating chords around them. The melody is not strong. It is rather weak. It seems the song is mostly a thunderous bass beat and rotating chords around a simple stationary melodic intervals. They really depend on the movement of the chords to give a sense of variety to the melody line.

This is my big fat opinion about it, and I could be wrong. Where is the well written melody these days ??

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Originally posted by jaywill
I do not often hear a Rock song these days with a good melody. It seems that the talent for writing a good melody is either not in vogue or the ability has been somewhat lost.

I am a musician. And I have played lead guitar in combos, so I know something about it.

I don't hear well thought out melodies since the 80s. What do I hear? Okay, I hear first ...[text shortened]... big fat opinion about it, and I could be wrong. Where is the well written melody these days ??
I have to agree with you ,JW. Although it is only a truism for commercial music. The independent 'scene' has never wavered to deliver great melodies year in , year out. There are always diamonds to be found in the rough!

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Originally posted by darvlay
Fabricated crap with artificial sound?

Frankly, you don't sound like much of a musician to me. How can a sound be artificial and what music isn't fabricated by definition of the word?
I don't mean it literally.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I don't mean it literally.
Then what did you mean?

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Originally posted by darvlay
Then what did you mean?
I meant to say it was shallow and tasteless.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I meant to say it was shallow and tasteless.
Well that's a bit more descriptive then. 😀

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well,rap is music style and you can do nothing !
i listen to it some times ,but if you dont like it ,you can listen to some thing else like Metal =) Like Mudvayne !I really love that band !

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Originally posted by gelareh
well,rap is music style and you can do nothing !
i listen to it some times ,but if you dont like it ,you can listen to some thing else like Metal =) Like Mudvayne !I really love that band !
"Roll it it up Kane!,,Roll it up Kane!"

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Originally posted by gelareh
well,rap is music style and you can do nothing !
i listen to it some times ,but if you dont like it ,you can listen to some thing else like Metal =) Like Mudvayne !I really love that band !
whats so good about metal? its just a collection of loud noises mixed with shouts, which will probably make you deaf after listening for long periods of time.

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I get pretty sick of it, how it's assumed that we all have to continue to pretend that it's music, otherwise we're a bigot or something.

Well, most of it I hear is just garbage, period.

Now the same is true of pop music generally. But I can say "Nickleback sucks," and that's fine, but if I say some rapper sucks, that's not fine because I'm white.

What a load of crap.

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Originally posted by shiloh
I get pretty sick of it, how it's assumed that we all have to continue to pretend that it's music, otherwise we're a bigot or something.

Well, most of it I hear is just garbage, period.

Now the same is true of pop music generally. But I can say "Nickleback sucks," and that's fine, but if I say some rapper sucks, that's not fine because I'm white.

What a load of crap.
Who is saying it's not fine if you think rap artist X sucks...?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
whats so good about metal? its just a collection of loud noises mixed with shouts, which will probably make you deaf after listening for long periods of time.
Well, Mudvayne is crap, but there are some very good metal bands, you just have to be willing to look for them. But since you are a Beatles fan I presume you only like generic, accessible music.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Well, Mudvayne is crap, but there are some very good metal bands, you just have to be willing to look for them. But since you are a Beatles fan I presume you only like generic, accessible music.
Well, if you're going down that road - since you're from the Netherlands you must LOVE ABBA (just using the same argument...I don't if either your's or mine is true)

Generalizing in either direction, either totally love or totally avoid, all musicians of a musical genre is certainly narrow minded and leads one to really giving up the search for quality. And why give up that search...unless you're really NOT a music fan?

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