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Originally posted by KilgoreTrout15
I'm in favor of giving every person money when they WORK FOR IT.
If they need help, give it to them.
But make them punch a time clock and DO SOMETHING for it.
14,000 applicants for 200 jobs in a supermarket, recent scots headline... so you have a great plan for those 200 really, but the 13,800 others? what do you recommend??

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The poor want to work.

The rich of the USA and Great Britain don't want to be served and outsource labor because there's no global minimum wage.

But they still expect us to pay the rent.

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Originally posted by C1I1D1P
All the info is in the below web address

http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/01/30/soldier-injured-in-iraq-grenade-attack-wins-two-year-benefit-battle-with-dwp/

Essentially it's the story of how the British Government is putting disabled people through test interviews and claiming that they are "fit for work" when in actual fact, they are not.

One ...[text shortened]... d "fit for work".

Now I don't care who you are but how can anyone justify the unjustifiable ?
The atos questionnaires are a bit like a benefits cull on people who shouldn't be working, there is a bit of work till your dead mentality, cancer.. can you walk sir? Think its pushing the last in line for jobs too, these people will just wait years for jobs on jsa and yes 25,000+ dying on the way there, quite possible, they're the least hireable.

If it were my job I'd let a recruitment consultant do the assessments, not 'fit for work' -their Drs already said no but 'are they employable' ... even better, can I get them a job? Some might like this, I wouldn't mind but being unemployable and given years on miniscule benefits for not ... dying enough! is wrong... have seen it to.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The poor want to work.

The rich of the USA and Great Britain don't want to be served and outsource labor because there's no global minimum wage.

But they still expect us to pay the rent.
ages ago in the bleaker 80s there was this story about a street where no one had a job at all, except a blind guy who worked in the jobcentre... 🙁

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Neither of them are speculative. Both the connection between poverty and social mobility, as well as poverty and crime, are well-documented. I recommend you investigate the issue.
They are both arguable then, and not just facts. I've read lots of stuff indicating no relationship between poverty and crime, over decades and centuries, not just a few years.

Of course more family wealth increases the chances of upward mobility. Welfare is never going to make everything "fair and equal". People are born with inequality as a given.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The poor want to work.

The rich of the USA and Great Britain don't want to be served and outsource labor because there's no global minimum wage.

But they still expect us to pay the rent.
"The poor want to work."

All of them?

You seem to know a lot about the rich and poor. Are all of the rich landlords? I think not, and I posit that being a landlord is not the path to riches.

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Originally posted by e4chris
its ridiculous, but down south, esp london you can get housing benefits for a property you could not afford if you worked, its so stupid. Scotland has that problem less as the housing market is fairer and there seems to be some comprehension of what people on lower wages can afford as rent. But in London that concept is totally lost.. People struggle on JSA ...[text shortened]... g powers. Why i'm starting to favour Scottish independence because they really can't do worse...
I hear you and agree.

All the best and good luck in the future.

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thanks, you too

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pm-urged-axe-disability-tests-200510169.html#0tIewde

The Top Church Leader in England gives his take on the subject.

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