@metal-brain saidNo you said quite clearly 30% of democrats think Biden lost the election, but your lying or your using sources that even you are too embarrassed to cite and I cannot imagine what that source must be.
Nope. I said "some" polls.
I selected the Reuters article because of the comments about civil war.
I know that when I prove someone lied they tend to habitually accuse me of it because of a grudge. Get over it and stop lying.
@metal-brain saidYou quoted a source which quoted a Rasmussen poll. So all Rasmussn polls are relevant. Yes or no?
You are off topic.
That isn't what this thread is about.
The poll which you sourced indirectly is not on their site, another one which is more recent is.
What the more recent poll says is in disagreement with your source (the quoted older poll). So even if you were right in mid november you are not right at the time you posted that.
So answer yes or now:
* Are rasmuss polls reliable source?
And another poll:
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/36_still_think_a_trump_win_likely_through_court_challenges
This is not to overload your brain:
Among all voters, 43% view the Trump campaign’s challenges as the result of widespread voter fraud in several states. But 50% disagree and think they are just a political effort to delay Joe Biden’s victory.
So is this in accordance with what you claimed earlier?
Please link to the relevant Poll next time nt as a Quote, it seems like your favourite News channles are lying to you 😲
@ponderable saidThat Rasmussen poll you posted pretty much confirmed what I said. I can work with that.
You quoted a source which quoted a Rasmussen poll. So all Rasmussn polls are relevant. Yes or no?
The poll which you sourced indirectly is not on their site, another one which is more recent is.
What the more recent poll says is in disagreement with your source (the quoted older poll). So even if you were right in mid november you are not right at the time you posted that.
So answer yes or now:
* Are rasmuss polls reliable source?
@ponderable saidRassmussen is not a reliable pollster; he has a serious, persistent pro-Republican bias. https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/08/politics/poll-of-the-week-trumps-favorite-pollster/index.html
You quoted a source which quoted a Rasmussen poll. So all Rasmussn polls are relevant. Yes or no?
The poll which you sourced indirectly is not on their site, another one which is more recent is.
What the more recent poll says is in disagreement with your source (the quoted older poll). So even if you were right in mid november you are not right at the time you posted that.
So answer yes or now:
* Are rasmuss polls reliable source?
The title of the thread is obviously false; there is zero number of polls suggesting that any such percentage of Democrats agree with Trump that he won the election.
Here's an NPR/Marist Poll saying that 95% of Democrats answered "yes" to the question: "Do you trust that the results of the 2020 election are accurate?" https://www.npr.org/2020/12/09/944385798/poll-just-a-quarter-of-republicans-accept-election-outcome
@Ponderable
Why bother trying to debate with such an obvious troll? He is not worth the effort. You will never change is so-called mind.
He answered your statement about that site being an ultrarightwingnut job and he goes 'SO WHAT?" which just goes to prove he does not know the difference between unbiased reporting and the kind of BS that site pukes out on a daily basis so again, why would you even TRY to have a dialog with such a closed mind, if he actually HAS a mind?
@no1marauder saidhttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/wow-30-democrats-believe-election-stolen-trump-75-republicans-believe-likely-election-stolen-trump/
The title of the thread is obviously false; there is zero number of polls suggesting that any such percentage of Democrats agree with Trump that he won the election.
Here's an NPR/Marist Poll saying that 95% of Democrats answered "yes" to the question: "Do you trust that the results of the 2020 election are accurate?" https://www.npr.org/2020/12/09/944385798/poll-just-a-quarter-of-republicans-accept-election-outcome
@metal-brain saidThat poll is from an unreliable pollster, is over a month old and no question was asked about the election being "stolen". The question used was:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/wow-30-democrats-believe-election-stolen-trump-75-republicans-believe-likely-election-stolen-trump/
"* How likely is it that Democrats stole votes or destroyed pro-Trump ballots in several states to ensure that Biden would win - very likely, somewhat likely, not very likely or not at all likely?"
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/questions/questions/november_2020/questions_trump_concession_november_17_18_2020
Even if someone thinks there might have been instances of fraud, that doesn't mean they "agree with Trump" that the election was "stolen" by widespread fraud.
@no1marauder said"to ensure that Biden would win"
That poll is from an unreliable pollster, is over a month old and no question was asked about the election being "stolen". The question used was:
"* How likely is it that Democrats stole votes or destroyed pro-Trump ballots in several states to ensure that Biden would win - very likely, somewhat likely, not very likely or not at all likely?"
https://www.rasmussenrep ...[text shortened]... fraud, that doesn't mean they "agree with Trump" that the election was "stolen" by widespread fraud.
That is exactly what Trump claimed.
Give it up. I know you don't want it to be true, but it is. Almost half of all Americans think that. By January it will probably be more than half.
@metal-brain saidHe claimed far more than that as (maybe) you know (you are so pathetically misinformed it is hard to tell sometimes).
"to ensure that Biden would win"
That is exactly what Trump claimed.
Give it up. I know you don't want it to be true, but it is. Almost half of all Americans think that. By January it will probably be more than half.
By the end of January, Trump will be on his way to being a pathetic footnote in history.
@metal-brain saidYou've already been corrected on your factual inaccuracies by other posters, but it should be pointed out that polls don't determine fact. Facts are not subject to public opinion. If polls show that most people believe in flat earth, that doesn't make it so.
30% of democrats agree with Trump's election fraud claims in some polls. That surprised me.
@no1marauder said"He claimed far more than that"
He claimed far more than that as (maybe) you know (you are so pathetically misinformed it is hard to tell sometimes).
By the end of January, Trump will be on his way to being a pathetic footnote in history.
No, he didn't and you know that.
@metal-brain saidAre you serious?
"He claimed far more than that"
No, he didn't and you know that.
If so, you are ridiculously misinformed.