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Bad wolf

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A band of robbers ride into town with guns drawn and demand all the gold in the bank. They are called criminals. They return the next year on the same day and repeat their demand. Again they are called criminals. They put on uniforms and return each year on the same day.
Eventually they are called tax collectors. Finally, the smallest and least offensive of the bandits rides into town unarmed and the townspeople give him their gold without a struggle.
The state has arrived.

Or so it can be argued.

Is the state really a glorified criminal?

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Originally posted by Bad wolf
Is the state really a glorified criminal?
Not necessarily. In theory, the state is providing something in return for taxes. In execution, it can be a whole other matter.

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
Not necessarily. In theory, the state is providing something in return for taxes. In execution, it can be a whole other matter.
You are correct there. The government is more like a Robin Hood criminal in a way. The taxes from one person goes into the pocket of another. Cash for clunkers is a prime example of this. Now this thread does not go far enough to pinpoint the thief. The federal reserve is the true thief. The federal reserve is not a government entity and answers to no one at all for anything. Something that powerful and yet Government can not audit it. No checks and balances. A bunch of murderous thieves to the core. Would the founding fathers approve of this?

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
Not necessarily. In theory, the state is providing something in return for taxes. In execution, it can be a whole other matter.
Kinda like someone walking into your business and asking you to pay for "protection". Of course, if you don't [pay up then they will show you what you need protection from.

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Originally posted by joe beyser
. A bunch of murderous thieves to the core. Would the founding fathers approve of this?[/b]
Who cares what the Founding Fathers would have thought? After all, they are a bunch of old farts. They arn't hip like us nor did they have the wisdom to boot. Oh yea, did I mention we have technological advances now which changes everything!! I say screw'em!!! 😠

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Originally posted by whodey
Who cares what the Founding Fathers would have thought? After all, they are a bunch of old farts. They arn't hip like us nor did they have the wisdom to boot. Oh yea, did I mention we have technological advances now which changes everything!! I say screw'em!!! 😠
Let's dig up Jefferson and ask him if we should bring slavery back?

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Let's dig up Jefferson and ask him if we should bring slavery back?
The way Obama is headed with spending and future taxes, I think the answer is yes.

So there ya go, Obama is one of them!!!

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Originally posted by whodey
The way Obama is headed with spending and future taxes, I think the answer is yes.

So there ya go, Obama is one of them!!!
Your record is stuck in its groove again.

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Let's dig up Jefferson and ask him if we should bring slavery back?
I am all for it. Jefferson could be the president and Obama could well.... just go back to ethiopia or nigeria or wherever he is from.

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Originally posted by joe beyser
I am all for it. Jefferson could be the president and Obama could well.... just go back to ethiopia or nigeria or wherever he is from.
Indeed. I think he would be a walk in if he were to run for election today.

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Originally posted by whodey
Indeed. I think he would be a walk in if he were to run for election today.
He would take a look at what is going on with the federal reserve and say I knew you were going to loose it. Then he would climb back into his coffin close the lid and bolt it from the inside.

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Originally posted by Bad wolf

Is the state really a glorified criminal?
Short answer: no.

Long answer: of course not.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Short answer: no.

Long answer: of course not.
I am glad you know the difference between the state and federal reserve.

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Originally posted by Bad wolf
A band of robbers ride into town with guns drawn and demand all the gold in the bank. They are called criminals. They return the next year on the same day and repeat their demand. Again they are called criminals. They put on uniforms and return each year on the same day.
Eventually they are called tax collectors. Finally, the smallest and least offensive ...[text shortened]...
The state has arrived.

Or so it can be argued.

Is the state really a glorified criminal?
A band of robbers ride into town with guns drawn and demand all the townsfolk's gold. They are called criminals. They return the next year on the same day and repeat their demand. Again they are called criminals. They put on uniforms and return each year on the same day.
Eventually they are called bankers.

Or so it can be argued.

Are bankers really glorified criminals?

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