A Population's Health: which is more important?

Originally posted by joe beyser
Look up codex alimentarius. The diet not only get no credit, but it is under attack!!!! There is more money to be made by the medical system so of course it will be played up and choice will be dictated.

From what I've seen it looks like the food wing of the Bilderberg group. If it's good for big business it's good for everyone!

Originally posted by Eladar
If personal choices of diet and lifestyle play a major role in the health of a population, then why is it that when one discusses health care, personal choices are not take into consideration? Why is it only healthcare that gets the credit or the blame?

Because a government has significant control over a country's health care system, but has very limited control over the lifestyle choices of its populace. A government might try and educate people about healthy choices but is significantly overstepping its authority if it wants to severely restrict people's choices.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Because a government has significant control over a country's health care system, but has very limited control over the lifestyle choices of its populace. A government might try and educate people about healthy choices but is significantly overstepping its authority if it wants to severely restrict people's choices.

Because a government can control it, then it matters. Right, gotcha.

BTW, the government does control what it allows in its food supply.

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I see you really don't want to discuss the topic of this thread.

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Still unwilling to discuss the actual subject. Par for the course.

Originally posted by Eladar
Because a government can control it, then it matters. Right, gotcha.

BTW, the government does control what it allows in its food supply.

Things that the government can't control may certainly be relevant, but not to government policy.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Because a government has significant control over a country's health care system, but has very limited control over the lifestyle choices of its populace. A government might try and educate people about healthy choices but is significantly overstepping its authority if it wants to severely restrict people's choices.

and you don't think a government is over stepping it's authority by forcing people to buy insurance from exchanges? The unintended consequences of the Affordable care act, have yet to play out,, but this plan will hurt the country..

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yeah, I bet the reason people lived to age 30 in the 1800s was due to eating too many Big Macs.

Not enough Big Macs, clearly.

Originally posted by Eladar
You are saying that in Zambia everyone eats a healthy diet and practices healthy lifestyles?

No, obviously I am not.
You on the other hand are claiming that those in the US eat healthier diets and practice healthier lifestyles than those in Zambia by quite a big margin. this is simply not true, rendering your OP's claim quite obviously false.

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
and you don't think a government is over stepping it's authority by forcing people to buy insurance from exchanges? The unintended consequences of the Affordable care act, have yet to play out,, but this plan will hurt the country..

The ACA is very similar to Massachusetts' health care plan, so its consequences will likely be similar: increased coverage, but no major cost savings.

I favour a single payer system, which according to empirical evidence is more efficient. Such a system leaves plenty of room for private health care (and insurance thereof), which requires little regulation because the essential health care services are already guaranteed by the government.

Originally posted by twhitehead
No, obviously I am not.
You on the other hand are claiming that those in the US eat healthier diets and practice healthier lifestyles than those in Zambia by quite a big margin. this is simply not true, rendering your OP's claim quite obviously false.

No, I'm afraid you are missing the question of the thread. My question was which is more important individual lifestyle choices or medical care?

If individual choices plays a large part, then you can't judge a country's medical industry on things like average life expectancy.

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
and you don't think a government is over stepping it's authority by forcing people to buy insurance from exchanges? The unintended consequences of the Affordable care act, have yet to play out,, but this plan will hurt the country..

He believes in a government that dominates society. He believes that the government should provide jobs for everyone, but the pay for those jobs should be minimal. Everyone has a job and everyone can survive. This is the model that Kaz endorses. He is a big believer in the Manor State.

Originally posted by twhitehead
No, obviously I am not.
You on the other hand are claiming that those in the US eat healthier diets and practice healthier lifestyles than those in Zambia by quite a big margin. this is simply not true, rendering your OP's claim quite obviously false.

You might want to give this link a read:

http://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/zssj/vol1/iss1/4/