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@shavixmir said
If anyone is alleged to have broken down the doors to a government building, then they should be arrested, yes.

I will leave the charging to those in charge and the judging to the courts of law.

Don’t you agree?
Do you condemn those criminals who broke the capitol doors and support a thorough investigation to identify those criminals with the best face recognition technology available no matter who they work for?


@shavixmir said
If anyone is alleged to have broken down the doors to a government building, then they should be arrested, yes.

I will leave the charging to those in charge and the judging to the courts of law.

Don’t you agree?
Seems like you are counting on these criminals to get a slap on the wrist. We both know the only way that would happen is if those criminals were FBI agents, which indicates you believe it was a false flag setup just as much as I do.

Do you want those criminals to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Especially if they are undercover FBI agents who swore to uphold that law?
I think they should get at least 10 years since former FBI agents get 6 so FBI agents should get about twice that. Do you agree?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/former-fbi-special-agent-sentenced-6-years-prison-accepting-bribes-paid-attorney


@metal-brain said
@Ponderable
Will you state for the record that you condemn those people that broke the doors to the CB and that you want them to be arrested and charged with a crime?
Yes, I will so state for the record. For the record, over 700 hundred of them already have been and the DoJ is actively pursuing more of them.


@metal-brain said
Seems like you are counting on these criminals to get a slap on the wrist. We both know the only way that would happen is if those criminals were FBI agents, which indicates you believe it was a false flag setup just as much as I do.

Do you want those criminals to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Especially if they are undercover FBI agents who swore to ...[text shortened]... ce.gov/usao-cdca/pr/former-fbi-special-agent-sentenced-6-years-prison-accepting-bribes-paid-attorney
Nothing I say indicates it’s a bloody false flag set-up, you moron.

You know what, leave drawing conclusions to people who are smart enough to tie their own shoelaces.


@metal-brain said
Most of them were entrapped by the FBI and CP. That is a fact you are in denial of.

Will you state for the record that you condemn those people that broke the doors to the CB and that you want them to be arrested and charged with a crime?
What about the people issuing death threats to police officers and Congress members in the video? Are they FBI employees?

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@wajoma said
I watched the first one and it was nothing like what you said, there were a couple of lunatics yelling all kinds of stuff, pretty ballsy actually with a pistol pointed at you, then later the person viding stepped back and it all looked very amicable, a cop directed a protestor away and he shrugged and went in the direction the cop gestured, others standing around with hands in ...[text shortened]... rst you got?

shag doody wasted my time with two vids which showed cops instigating confrontation.
How do you write 'amicable' with a straight face while a guns pointed at your head through a barricaded door?

What I said is exactly what happened in the videos. Barricaded doors, broken windows, specific death threats on specific people, including the police officers family.

Tourists?

These people all knew they were breaking the law when they crossed the police barricade and entered the capital. They chose to go and do it anyway. Now they whine about it, say they were entrapped, like children.

Grow up, MAGA. Do your time. Be proud you were a part of history.

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@metal-brain said
People were convicted of seditious conspiracy that were not even there. You are a joke.
Yes, some who were not there on Jan. 6 were convicted, and rightly so. Physical presence in a bank is not required in order to bring a conviction for conspiracy to rob a bank; similarly, physical presence in the Capitol Bldg. is not required in order to convict for conspiracy to commit sedition.

The joke's on you.

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@wildgrass said
How do you write 'amicable' with a straight face while a guns pointed at your head through a barricaded door?

What I said is exactly what happened in the videos. Barricaded doors, broken windows, specific death threats on specific people, including the police officers family.

Tourists?

These people all knew they were breaking the law when they crossed the police ba ...[text shortened]... were entrapped, like children.

Grow up, MAGA. Do your time. Be proud you were a part of history.
"...then later the person viding stepped back and it all looked very amicable, a cop directed a protestor away and he shrugged and went in the direction the cop gestured, others standing around with hands in their pockets..."

Capitol police were pepper spraying and tossing potentially lethal stun grenades into crowds of people that had nowhere to go. Purposely inflaming the situation. Those stun grenades aren't some legal firework you buy from kmart, they're enough to blow your hand off, throw one into a crowd and it's trapped between people in a crush = death or permanent injury. In the case of the woman that died there's vid of her being beaten repeatedly with a baton while she was on the ground. I'm granting the protestors some leeway in responding to that and in fact considering what the cops were doing the response was remarkedly restrained.

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@wajoma said
"...then later the person viding stepped back and it all looked very amicable, a cop directed a protestor away and he shrugged and went in the direction the cop gestured, others standing around with hands in their pockets..."

Capitol police were pepper spraying and tossing potentially lethal stun grenades into crowds of people that had nowhere to go. Purposely ...[text shortened]... ing to that and in fact considering what the cops were doing the response was remarkedly restrained.
That's quite different from the mainline conservative arguments that police escorted them on a tour of the capitol.

Fine. Later, but the amicable gun was still loaded and still pointed at them from behind a makeshift barricade protecting members of Congress from people who were threatening physical violence. The "protesters" were knowingly doing illegal things.


@wildgrass said
What about the people issuing death threats to police officers and Congress members in the video? Are they FBI employees?
Will you state for the record that you condemn those people that broke the doors to the CB and that you want them to be arrested and charged with a crime?


@moonbus said
Yes, some who were not there on Jan. 6 were convicted, and rightly so. Physical presence in a bank is not required in order to bring a conviction for conspiracy to rob a bank; similarly, physical presence in the Capitol Bldg. is not required in order to convict for conspiracy to commit sedition.

The joke's on you.
Telling people "don't leave" is conspiracy to commit sedition?

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@wildgrass said
That's quite different from the mainline conservative arguments that police escorted them on a tour of the capitol.
That did occur, as did the cops holding the doors open for protestors to enter, yes, all those things happened.


@metal-brain said
Telling people "don't leave" is conspiracy to commit sedition?
The sum total of the proof of a plan, two words blurted out in the heat of the moment on communications the political prisoners had to know were being monitored.

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@wajoma said
That did occur, as did the cops holding the doors open for protestors to enter, yes, all those things happened.
Right. An amicable riotous affair filled with police barricades, death threats, vandalism, tear gas, hundreds of undercover FBI, and the rioters were treated to police escorts, free popcorn, and zero consequences.

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@wildgrass said
Right. An amicable riotous affair filled with police barricades, death threats, vandalism, tear gas, hundreds of undercover FBI, and the rioters were treated to police escorts, free popcorn, and zero consequences.
In some cases, yes.

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