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@no1marauder said
Trump had four years to end the occupation. He didn't.

Why did he just "make plans" only in his last year and only to go into effect the year after that?

Biden ended the occupation, not Trump. Again, those are the facts.
The truth is neither of them really did.
They both did what the Rockefellers told them to.

Trump is just hard to control. He is too independent unlike the obedient puppets the Rockefellers are used to. He fired that creep John Bolton for trying to assassinate Maduro. Why do you think Maduro wished Trump well after the assassination attempt?

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/07/16/corporate-coup-assassination-venezuelas-maduro-boltons-plot/

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@wildgrass said
A super PAC?
It's a Carey Committee which is kinda a half Super PAC:

"Carey Committee: A Carey committee is a hybrid political action committee that is not affiliated with a candidate and has the ability to operate both as a traditional PAC, contributing funds to a candidate's committee, and as a super PAC, which makes independent expenditures. To do so, Carey committees must have a separate bank account for each purpose. The committee can collect unlimited contributions from almost any source for its independent expenditure account, but may not use those funds for its traditional PAC contributions."

https://www.opensecrets.org/resources/learn/glossary.php#Carey+Committee

Super PACS cannot donate directly to candidates; while PACs can but are limited to $5,000 per candidate.

You can also use ActBlue as a conduit to give directly to a candidate within the limits for an individual donation (I've used it for that purpose a couple of times).

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@no1marauder
"Super PACS cannot donate directly to candidates"

They don't have to. They can make TV ads with big corporate money to sway elections. Super PACS are the tools of the wealthy to election meddle. It is a loophole created by the elites so their wealth can buy elections.

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@Metal-Brain said
@no1marauder
"Super PACS cannot donate directly to candidates"

They don't have to. They can make TV ads with big corporate money to sway elections. Super PACS are the tools of the wealthy to election meddle. It is a loophole created by the elites so their wealth can buy elections.
I'm aware.

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@no1marauder said
I'm aware.
Are you aware that makes democracy in the USA a farce?

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@Metal-Brain said
Are you aware that makes democracy in the USA a farce?
No, I'm not.

Nobody has to vote a certain way because someone pays for an ad.

Super PACS exist because of the ridiculous SCOTUS decision in Citizens United which if we could ever get enough judges who aren't tools of the right wing on that court we could probably reverse it (it tossed aside a 20 year precedent). https://supreme.findlaw.com/supreme-court-insights/what-really-happened-in-citizens-united-v--fec-.[WORD TOO LONG].

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@no1marauder said
No, I'm not.

Nobody has to vote a certain way because someone pays for an ad.

Super PACS exist because of the ridiculous SCOTUS decision in Citizens United which if we could ever get enough judges who aren't tools of the right wing on that court we could probably reverse it (it tossed aside a 20 year precedent). https://supreme.findlaw.com/supreme-court-insig ...[text shortened]... hat%20%22independent%20political,it%20was%20not%20coordinated%20with%20a%20candidate%27s%20campaign.
But they do vote a certain way based on political ads. If that were no big deal you would be okay with Russia creating super PACS here to influence the outcome of our elections too.

But you know that. You just admitted the SCOTUS decision is ridiculous.
That made democracy a farce in the USA. Still is. Fix the problem within before projecting on foreigners. The Russians think we are idiots. It is embarrassing.
Corporations run our primary elections. Apparently they are right.

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@no1marauder said
It's a Carey Committee which is kinda a half Super PAC:

"Carey Committee: A Carey committee is a hybrid political action committee that is not affiliated with a candidate and has the ability to operate both as a traditional PAC, contributing funds to a candidate's committee, and as a super PAC, which makes independent expenditures. To do so, Carey committees must have ...[text shortened]... date within the limits for an individual donation (I've used it for that purpose a couple of times).
PACs or super PAC are not getting my money.

There's way too much money in politics, from super PACs to lobbyists who spend hundreds of millions to block new legislation. I want no part of it.

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@no1marauder said
You're the one who is lying.

The troops were still in Afghanistan the day Trump left office the same that they were in there when he took office.

Within 8 months of Biden taking office, they were out of the country.

Those are the facts.
and 13 dead soldiers because of biden

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
and 13 dead soldiers because of biden
You misspelled Trump.

It was HIS plan.

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@Metal-Brain said
The truth is neither of them really did.
They both did what the Rockefellers told them to.

Trump is just hard to control. He is too independent unlike the obedient puppets the Rockefellers are used to. He fired that creep John Bolton for trying to assassinate Maduro. Why do you think Maduro wished Trump well after the assassination attempt?

https://thegrayzone.com/2024/07/16/corporate-coup-assassination-venezuelas-maduro-boltons-plot/
Does it make you feel properly scared, shaking in your boots, to think shadow groups are in charge of everything? Or do you just use the idea as your excuse to vote Republican?

There's more going on behind their green door than you have room for in your mythology.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
and 13 dead soldiers because of biden
13 soldiers died in a terrorist attack during the most successful military evacuation since Dunkirk; something like 125,000 moved out of country saving at least thousands, possibly tens of thousands of lives. You and the other right wingers dishonor their sacrifice with such rot.

64 US soldiers died in Afghanistan during Trump's tenure. More would have died had Biden not had the political courage to end the occupation.

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@Suzianne said
Does it make you feel properly scared, shaking in your boots, to think shadow groups are in charge of everything? Or do you just use the idea as your excuse to vote Republican?

There's more going on behind their green door than you have room for in your mythology.
I do wonder who is running the Biden administration.

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@no1marauder said
Democrats are voting with their wallets/pocketbooks:

"ActBlue, the major Democratic fundraising platform, is blowing up this afternoon.

Since Biden's announcement, the platform — which includes presidential fundraising as well as down-ballot candidates and Democratic-aligned groups — has raised more than $27.5 million.


That’s far more than normal: Over roughly ...[text shortened]... biden-harris-donations-00170174

It's no surprise the party's base has been energized by the news.
That is good news for whoever wins (gets selected by the delegates) the democrat nomination. Now you know why the corporate news media has to pretend Kamala is a good choice. For fundraising purposes.

Gavin must be pleased he will have a super PAC helping his campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/world/asia/gavin-newsom-china-xi.html

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@Metal-Brain
Right, the money rolling in has NOTHING to do with the fact it is SMALL donors kicking in 5 or 10 bucks a crack, not some assshole billionaire like Peter Thiel who gave Vance 15 MILLION just to get him in the senate.
Now Vance is going to be a liability on the formerly called republican party now called the Trump party. They are going to lose votes because of the obvious choice for VP bases SOLELY on his rich buddies like Thiel.

Funny how those small democrat donors have given a hundred MILLION or more in just 24 hours after Biden quit the race.
OF COURSE that tells you NOTHING, since it now seems clear there will NOT be a kill the democracy coup like you and Project 2025 wanted THIS YEAR. Of course for your side the Heritage foundation has been fighting the IDEA of democracy for literally 50 years, having worked in the shadows to get judges appointed who would be willing to do just that and the latest traitor crew on SCOTUS just proved it, allowing Trump to have near total immunity, more than even his lawyers were suing for.

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