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@philokalia said
There's many great conservative debaters.
Unfortunately they're not in this forum.

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@Kewpie

Kewpie, you have some points here, but can you tell me who - by far, the most disgusting poster at UM is??

HINT: He is not American.
Click here --->

shavixmir
<---- for surprise answer 😛

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@earl-of-trumps said
@Kewpie

Kewpie, you have some points here, but can you tell me who - by far, the most disgusting poster at UM is??

HINT: He is not American.
Click here ---> Hidden content removed <---- for surprise answer 😛
I'd agree with you about much of his posting vocabulary, which I suspect has its origins in contempt for certain other posters:
https://abc7chicago.com/pig-poop-funny-video/760581/

As a grey-haired female raised in politer times I'd prefer that he didn't use that language, but he's just using it to say what I'm saying about debaters in this forum.

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@kewpie said
Unfortunately they're not in this forum.
Yeah I have no opinion about that, but we may be biased.

If people here are impressed with the liberal postings around here... That is also .... not a polite conversation from my perspective, lol.

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@kewpie said
I'd agree with you about much of his posting vocabulary, which I suspect has its origins in contempt for certain other posters:
https://abc7chicago.com/pig-poop-funny-video/760581/

As a grey-haired female raised in politer times I'd prefer that he didn't use that language, but he's just using it to say what I'm saying about debaters in this forum.
It should be pointed out that Shav's language is aimed at the more vile posters on this forum. This includes poster like Metal Brain who has stated completely seriously that "all women should be punched", or the multiple racist posters who denigrate minorities.

It seems people get more upset by offensive language than offensive statements. Metal Brain can post about punching women but my post gets deleted if I use an expletive at his vile statement.

Still I suppose it can be worth trying to keep discussions civil, regardless of another poster's ideas. Pretty damn hard though when you read enough posts.

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@philokalia said
There's many great conservative debaters.
here? no

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@vivify said
It should be pointed out that Shav's language is aimed at the more vile posters on this forum. This includes poster like Metal Brain who has stated completely seriously that "all women should be punched", or the multiple racist posters who denigrate minorities.

It seems people get more upset by offensive language than offensive statements. Metal Brain can post about punchin ...[text shortened]... ons civil, regardless of another poster's ideas. Pretty damn hard though when you read enough posts.
It was sooooo funny when he was making anal incest jokes about my dear old Dad that died of leukemia, his dying wish that we not send him back into the goobermint health system. So myself and my three sisters tended to him and stayed with him for the last weeks of his life in his little one bedroom home.

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@wajoma said
It was sooooo funny when he was making anal incest jokes about my dear old Dad that died of leukemia, his dying wish that we not send him back into the goobermint health system. So myself and my three sisters tended to him and stayed with him for the last weeks of his life in his little one bedroom home.
Wajoma, we certainly do not take any post personally, that is quite silly, since this is anonymous. I hate to let his vile-speech personna off the hook, but then on the other hand, he will know it does not affect us.

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@philokalia said
"The Center" is an illusion.

90 years ago, every country in the West would be universally far right, and even many Communists would be thought of as bigots...

The "center," the "far right," these are just conventions.
Conventions based on the political reality of the day, this isn’t 90 years ago it’s now.
That’s why the other name for left of centre is ‘progressives’ because we like society and culture to progress, and for authoritarianism to decline, it’s kind of who we are
Being right or left of centre is nothing in itself to be ashamed of it depends where the centre is. I would say that in the US the centre is Biden but there is nothing to prevent the GOP from occupying that space

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@vivify said
It should be pointed out that Shav's language is aimed at the more vile posters on this forum. This includes poster like Metal Brain who has stated completely seriously that "all women should be punched", or the multiple racist posters who denigrate minorities.

It seems people get more upset by offensive language than offensive statements. Metal Brain can post about punchin ...[text shortened]... ons civil, regardless of another poster's ideas. Pretty damn hard though when you read enough posts.
vivify said - "...multiple racist posters who denigrate minorities."

really!? I've been here 4 years and haven't seen that. The problem debating with liberals is that they lie like fooking rugs.

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@Wajoma said (of shavixmir)
"It was sooooo funny when he was making anal incest jokes about my dear old Dad that died of leukemia,"

And watch the filthy leftists come together to protect shav with EXCUSES... "ah, he's only doing it to bad people"

I don't know who makes sicker, shav or his posse

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@kevcvs57 said
Conventions based on the political reality of the day, this isn’t 90 years ago it’s now.
That’s why the other name for left of centre is ‘progressives’ because we like society and culture to progress, and for authoritarianism to decline, it’s kind of who we are
Being right or left of centre is nothing in itself to be ashamed of it depends where the centre is. I would say that in the US the centre is Biden but there is nothing to prevent the GOP from occupying that space
But this is an odd statement to me - for authoritarianism to decline when the trend has been increased authoritarianism in the West.

For instance, opinions that were not controversial about homosexuality or immigration just 15 years ago are being treated as criminal... This is authoritarian. It violates the basic concept of free speech.

Cue the liberal that will tell us that increasing tolerance isn't authoritarianism! or something...

... But it is authoritarian. The Communists had firmly anti-racist, anti-religious, anti-sexist beliefs... They were the definition of progressive, and the definition of totalitarian.

Which is why so many conservatives debate passionately against the left.

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@philokalia said
But this is an odd statement to me - for authoritarianism to decline when the trend has been increased authoritarianism in the West.

For instance, opinions that were not controversial about homosexuality or immigration just 15 years ago are being treated as criminal... This is authoritarian. It violates the basic concept of free speech.

Cue the liberal that ...[text shortened]... of totalitarian.

Which is why so many conservatives debate passionately against the left.
Philo: opinions that were not controversial about homosexuality or immigration just 15 years ago are being treated as criminal...

I'm calling BS on that. Please tell me where such opinions are now "criminal" i.e. in violation of penal laws and subject to penal sanctions.

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@vivify said
It should be pointed out that Shav's language is aimed at the more vile posters on this forum. This includes poster like Metal Brain who has stated completely seriously that "all women should be punched", or the multiple racist posters who denigrate minorities.

It seems people get more upset by offensive language than offensive statements. Metal Brain can post about punchin ...[text shortened]... ons civil, regardless of another poster's ideas. Pretty damn hard though when you read enough posts.
Yes, disgusting ideas are far more offensive to me than disgusting language. Language is only the currency of ideas.

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@suzianne said
Language is only the currency of ideas.
That is eloquent AF.

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